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peggysue2

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110. Thanks for that!

Mon Sep 11, 2017, 03:14 PM

Sep 2017

I agree with everything GothamGirl said in that thread. Hillary Clinton called it, saw the Trumpster for everything he was and was not. But she was routinely ignored, harassed and ridiculed for the effort. How's that working out for all of us???

As for Costa?

There are too many journalists/pundits who are desperate to normalize Trump, to find a single pearl in a load of crap and call it a PIVOT. So now, the crazy and erratic is nailed down as freewheeling and transactional. The Trumpster just wants to have fun. And win.

Newsflash: There's nothing remotely normal about Trump. Freewheeling is just another word for reckless. And transactional? Yeah, it all comes down to the Art of the Bad Deal. Bad for us, not for the Umber Emperor.

I'm beginning to think these pundits are trying to shake away their complicity in electing the biggest fraud in history. Great TV, that was candidate Trump. Great for network ratings/money-making. But then there's the Trumpsters' distaste for women, POC, gays, immigrants, the environment, etc. Not so good for the bottom line. So maybe they can redeem all that unwarranted attention and focus before the election by suggesting that the man is now on the verge of a complete conversion, sees the light, gets in touch with his human side and . . . PIVOTS.

Nope. Hillary was right once again. There is no other Donald Trump. What you see is what you get--a narcissistic ignoramus who is hellbent on taking the entire country down with him. There's no redeeming that.

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A tale of two leaders of the left: New books by Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton [View all] Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 OP

This should be interesting. jalan48 Sep 2017 #1

No kidding. calimary Sep 2017 #2

Yeah, it's just the beginning. NastyRiffraff Sep 2017 #5

Sophia McClennen? lapucelle Sep 2017 #10

there may be a lot she's glossing over clu Sep 2017 #12

It's stunning to me lapucelle Sep 2017 #15

Me Too Me. Sep 2017 #17

So it's both literally and figuratively lapucelle Sep 2017 #20

Well played The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #33

Me three. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #24

.... lapucelle Sep 2017 #28

What?! "Word is out" that Bernie's book is relegated to the teen section of local bookstores? Hortensis Sep 2017 #86

Thanks for the research, the quotes, and the motives of the author of the article. George II Sep 2017 #23

No, from your link (did you read it or cherry pick it?) she says to vote for Clinton. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #29

This is the most relevant part quoted above Rob H. Sep 2017 #42

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #54

The last snip presents a more nuanced view. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #126

How calculated and self-serving to reserve plausable deniability for herself. lapucelle Sep 2017 #128

One interpretation. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #131

I take McClellen at at her word. lapucelle Sep 2017 #135

Didn't take long. elleng Sep 2017 #27

This is like the election matt819 Sep 2017 #3

And she did one in a negative light, the other in a positive light. Curious that. George II Sep 2017 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #25

Mirrored the tone Lordquinton Sep 2017 #43

Nope. Sanders had some pretty negative things to say about Clinton and the Democrats, too.... George II Sep 2017 #56

Such as? Lordquinton Sep 2017 #94

Not gonna fall for that... George II Sep 2017 #95

So you don't actually have anything to back up your claim Lordquinton Sep 2017 #101

Sure I do, but you know how it is. George II Sep 2017 #102

Yep, I know. Lordquinton Sep 2017 #107

One of the books hasn't been released yet. lapucelle Sep 2017 #59

So many qualifers show your bias Lordquinton Sep 2017 #97

Have you read Sanders' book, or any of the many others that he's written? George II Sep 2017 #109

Have you? Lordquinton Sep 2017 #122

I've read more than two pages. George II Sep 2017 #124

Revisionism can be so amusing. lapucelle Sep 2017 #125

But everyone knows what it's going to say! George II Sep 2017 #116

Tone? From Bernie Sander's "Our Revolution". emulatorloo Sep 2017 #80

My word, this should shut the thread down. JHan Sep 2017 #84

Nor have I. When a women's healthcare provider under constant attack by Republicans is labeled emulatorloo Sep 2017 #85

Yep, the revisionism doesn't help at all..This thread on the book issue is great: JHan Sep 2017 #90

Thanks for that! peggysue2 Sep 2017 #110

Let me ask you this, and I'm being sincere, do you have a problems with Clinton saying.... George II Sep 2017 #112

I have the book on pre-order emulatorloo Sep 2017 #130

How is this in any way an attack on Hillary Clinton? LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #88

That was because of all the work she did treestar Sep 2017 #115

You are such a great debater! LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #132

right there in that blurb treestar Sep 2017 #133

He was stating what he was up against LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #134

You're right, of course Rob H. Sep 2017 #129

That's a description of what he was up against Lordquinton Sep 2017 #99

I thought mcar Sep 2017 #113

Yes Lordquinton Sep 2017 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author Beaverhausen Sep 2017 #52

"...the teen non-fiction section of their local bookstore." OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #4

What's wrong with trying to reach young people? white_wolf Sep 2017 #14

Nothing at all. OilemFirchen Sep 2017 #57

Hawking a published book one wrote seems rather benign. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #96

Yep. George II Sep 2017 #19

Maybe the adaptations will become lapucelle Sep 2017 #81

And to top it all off there's no VIP seating in the teen section. jalan48 Sep 2017 #47

I am a die hard Bernie Fan, pennylane100 Sep 2017 #6

Amen. shanny Sep 2017 #40

We were staunchly for HRC but would've voted for Sen. Sanders IF sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #105

What a disgusting article. She belittles and dismisses everything HRC has worked for her entire StevieM Sep 2017 #7

A whole big bunch of jealousy - Control-Z Sep 2017 #11

And some of it is false, too. Note that she said "word was out that VIP tickets...." George II Sep 2017 #21

Where? sheshe2 Sep 2017 #37

You found it linked down thread? Lordquinton Sep 2017 #49

I know what you are thinkin' covertly! 😆 sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #108

It's linked down thread Lordquinton Sep 2017 #50

The author conveniently left that out. I'll correct my post when Ms. McClennen corrects hers. George II Sep 2017 #75

"They go low, we go high" Lordquinton Sep 2017 #93

Your point? George II Sep 2017 #118

I'll let it speak for itself Lordquinton Sep 2017 #120

Hah! George II Sep 2017 #123

That's the problem with leaks Lordquinton Sep 2017 #44

Has she read the 473 pages of the book? Whatever, this woman is a Bernie person and biased OKNancy Sep 2017 #8

UNITY!!! lunamagica Sep 2017 #9

Tripe DURHAM D Sep 2017 #13

Well I See Salon Hasn't Changed Its Stripes Me. Sep 2017 #16

The Salon article is incorrect. For example, two nights ago Clinton appeared at Riverside Church... George II Sep 2017 #18

Salon never allows facts to determine what goes in their articles leftofcool Sep 2017 #31

$50 is the beginning ticket price BainsBane Sep 2017 #36

Ew. That Stein/JPR stink. ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #26

I think it's adorable that Salon believes Hillary gives a fuck! leftofcool Sep 2017 #30

+1,000,000 George II Sep 2017 #32

Why another deserving person made a great deal of money last years. Good for Sen. Sanders! Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #34

1% George II Sep 2017 #38

Always nice to read a Stein/Trump voter's perspective on things BainsBane Sep 2017 #35

Another Salon hit job. Salon has been among the media people who have been damning pnwmom Sep 2017 #39

Salon has been non stop Hillary hate for the last two years. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #76

So, Google is a thing... Rob H. Sep 2017 #41

And? Beaverhausen Sep 2017 #45

"And" the OP quotes the article, which says Rob H. Sep 2017 #46

ok but I was trying to make a point Beaverhausen Sep 2017 #51

Do you understand the difference between a VIP ticket and a regular ticket? yardwork Sep 2017 #55

A 2,911.00 difference in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal. Autumn Sep 2017 #58

It's a fundraiser. And 90 bucks is a very reasonable charge for a fundraising event. yardwork Sep 2017 #60

The poster didn't say the tickets start at $2,000,the poster said the ticket run upwards of $2,000, Autumn Sep 2017 #66

"Run upwards of" means the same as "prices start at" and that's patently false. yardwork Sep 2017 #68

The poster quoted the article. Anymore journilism sucks. It sounds like the writer Autumn Sep 2017 #70

Well said. In my book a half-truth is the same as a lie. Typical for click-bait "journalism" emulatorloo Sep 2017 #78

It goes to "Onward Together" leftofcool Sep 2017 #127

Do you understand that the Salon article states that Rob H. Sep 2017 #69

The assertion has been proven false in this very thread. yardwork Sep 2017 #71

No, it hasn't, and the Salon article doesn't. Nice try, though. Rob H. Sep 2017 #72

Link to $89 tickets here: yardwork Sep 2017 #73

LOL Rob H. Sep 2017 #74

I especially enjoy your deft and dexterous moment of the goal-posts. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #98

Do you like unicorns and leprechauns, too? Rob H. Sep 2017 #106

That's also the link to the $3,000.00 VIP tickets. You seem to be ignoring that part of my post, Autumn Sep 2017 #79

Ah, facts... Lordquinton Sep 2017 #48

The facts show that the tickets start at under $100. yardwork Sep 2017 #61

The poster called out that these were VIP tickets, so not sure what your point is. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #62

She's a politician. They raise money. It's what they do. yardwork Sep 2017 #64

Not anymore she's not. And the last time she stopped being a politician, she made millions berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #65

Where did Bernie get the money for his big lakefront house? yardwork Sep 2017 #67

She has a PAC to help progressive Democrats win and mentor new candidates wanting to run for office emulatorloo Sep 2017 #83

Again I ask. Can you give me the link as to which Fundraiser she is selling the tickets for? Autumn Sep 2017 #82

The goal of many, many accomplished authors. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #100

The general admission tickets are at $89. VIP tickets are much higher. Autumn Sep 2017 #87

Her general admission ticket prices seem equitable to the general admission prices for B-list pop co LanternWaste Sep 2017 #103

And go up to the amount reported Lordquinton Sep 2017 #92

A-fucking-men! N/T flotsam Sep 2017 #53

So when did russia get a reporter on Salon. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #63

A tale of a click-bait "journalist" emulatorloo Sep 2017 #77

Good article K&R LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #89

Sanders is a true leader on a mission. No time for petty bullshit Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #91

I like Sanders. I certainly hope more of his followers begin to emulate him. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #104

Did you ever read his book? BainsBane Sep 2017 #119

I'm going to guess ... left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #111

I don't think the author of that article actually read Bernie's book BainsBane Sep 2017 #114

OFFS. She uses every disgusting tool there is to write a biased "article." nolabear Sep 2017 #117