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Afromania

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21. the entire platform focused on class
Tue Sep 12, 2017, 03:26 PM
Sep 2017

Last edited Wed Sep 13, 2017, 10:34 AM - Edit history (2)

the alleged "duped" trump voters were too busy listening to populist nonsense with no details to read up on anything we put out there. The problem with being overly bombastic is that at some point you have to actually DO something meaningful.

These voters need to learn that the devil is in the details and the details bare out that they are being screwed by the people they vote for. They live this reality every single day and somehow ignore it. They have instead voted in republicans to their local and state governments and keep being kicked in the head.

Meanwhile, they are being fed that my people and your people are the problem. They choose to ignore the obvious and take the pap fox-infotainment serves up for them. Trump, and the republicans, are unabashed liars promising their voters the moon while giving them contaminated swamp rock instead.

The only way to reach those voters would be to outright lie to them. Tell them things will improve instantly without them changing any of their behavior. Tell them industries that the market has pushed to the brink of irrelevance can make a come back over cheaper and more efficient means.

Tell them that its so much cheaper to run a factory in a 3rd world nation that the only way those factories come back is if the product price increases by a factor of hundreds or that their pay will be well below the minimum wage. Tell them that they can have every single thing they want without compromise, change or pulling themselves up by the same boot straps they insist everybody disadvantaged pulls themselves up by. I'm not ok with with our party pandering to people that won't listen unless the candidate is being bombastic with zero substance.

By doing that the only thing you end up with a shallow electorate that will vote its' self away without ever knowing what they have truly voted for. Just like they already have and will probably continue to do. As for the actual 3rd party voters. They were the only ones duped in the 2016 election and there may be some hope for them.


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This Again? Me. Sep 2017 #1
yes it is this again clu Sep 2017 #5
Then Why Would They Vote For A DEm Me. Sep 2017 #6
Dems need every voter they can get Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #2
Obama/Sanders/Trump voter indeed clu Sep 2017 #3
"it's unpopular to label yourself a democrat" Me. Sep 2017 #4
what? Afromania Sep 2017 #8
"better collecting the votes... of those who were duped" clu Sep 2017 #12
the entire platform focused on class Afromania Sep 2017 #21
wish we could rec posts +++++++++ JHan Sep 2017 #61
Excellent Points Me. Sep 2017 #20
What. The. Hell? WinkyDink Sep 2017 #48
If people don't know what the Democratic Party has done for them, FT (the "T" is for "Them"). WinkyDink Sep 2017 #47
Feel better now? Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #58
Oh, whatEVer. What I'm sick of is this onslaught of redundant threads by trolls. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #59
Totally disagree. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #7
note the edit to theOP clu Sep 2017 #11
They don't understand public policy moda253 Sep 2017 #22
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Sep 2017 #27
If progressive legislation made sense to a Trump voter, they wouldn't be a Trump voter. kcr Sep 2017 #44
Uh....We're not Canadian. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #49
I'm willing to take the risk. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #9
Thank you. And the few who really would now switch their votes, dont need Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #34
Exactly. hamsterjill Sep 2017 #45
Ignore? ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #10
i am responding to some who seem to claim clu Sep 2017 #13
You Think They Should Take A Back Seat? Me. Sep 2017 #17
social justice is economic justice Afromania Sep 2017 #25
im mexican clu Sep 2017 #31
"(how many generations since blacks and women could vote?)" Afromania Sep 2017 #37
You can't put a dollar sign Skidmore Sep 2017 #63
What You Said Me. Sep 2017 #39
They most absolutely should and as long as I have ANYTHING to say about it, they will. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #35
I believe we Democrats are capable of walking and chewing gum mcar Sep 2017 #41
They would be....? Oh, the ubiquitous "some." WinkyDink Sep 2017 #50
Economic justice cannot exist without social justice ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #54
You think only 30% of Trump supporters are racist? gollygee Sep 2017 #14
nope i said 30% of whites clu Sep 2017 #15
Hmm I don't know gollygee Sep 2017 #16
can't argue that clu Sep 2017 #18
You think these people care about those things? JHan Sep 2017 #62
Fuck 'em. nt LexVegas Sep 2017 #19
The MOst Perfect Answer Of All Me. Sep 2017 #23
& the horse they rode in on AND the dirt on their floor! Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #36
I'd rather lose than cater to a bunch of racist assholes. They, and the people who try to minimize Tarheel_Dem Sep 2017 #24
Gosh! Finally someone is raising this issue! Squinch Sep 2017 #26
LOL SunSeeker Sep 2017 #28
LOL Scurrilous Sep 2017 #33
Stop voter suppression and there will be way more than enough to win. onecaliberal Sep 2017 #29
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #32
Agree 1000% ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #56
Did we chase those Dems that fell for Nixon's Southern Strategy ? Trust Buster Sep 2017 #30
Probably more likely... kentuck Sep 2017 #38
"What social justice issues require legislation today?" Educate yourself before lecturing us to take bettyellen Sep 2017 #40
+++++++++++++++++++ JHan Sep 2017 #60
NO. just. NO mercuryblues Sep 2017 #42
That + 10000000 onecaliberal Sep 2017 #51
"Dems need to stop coddling and patting the trump voters..... LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #53
What he said!!! atreides1 Sep 2017 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author johnp3907 Sep 2017 #43
An original topic! AWESOME! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #46
K & enthusiasticly R LAS14 Sep 2017 #52
Three words: male bovine feces! nt Atticus Sep 2017 #57
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