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gollygee

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40. Pointless comparison

Tue Sep 12, 2017, 04:49 PM

Sep 2017

and i think the problems are related anyway. In both cases, it's less about people of color and women being lower, and it's more about white men being at the top. I think we look at these problems in a backward way. It's about a racial caste system where white people are on top, and a societal gender bias where men are on top, and most of all a society structured to benefit white men.

We white women who are married to white men benefit from that to a large extent and so in that way it might be harder for people of color than white women married to white men. I think that's why more white women support how things are than people of color. Otherwise, it's a pointless comparison IMO.

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"I'm of the general belief that as racist as this country can be, its even MORE sexist." [View all] kpete Sep 2017 OP

Absolutely true. (Thanks for posting this.) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #1

Let me guess, a White woman wrote this BULLSHIT post AllTooEasy Sep 2017 #39

The misogyny in this country is every bit as evil as the racism and homophobia. DLevine Sep 2017 #41

you need to seriously educate yourself; women are and have been sold, raped, murdered, TheFrenchRazor Sep 2017 #42

Thank you GaryCnf Sep 2017 #43

So after a period of "Bernie is racist" we are back to "Bernie is sexist"... redgreenandblue Sep 2017 #2

I would say Bernie is neither. nycbos Sep 2017 #13

Criticism of sacred cows is often perceived as an attack. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #14

That also applies to the OP Major Nikon Sep 2017 #44

I agree. MoonRiver Sep 2017 #3

1 problem is how women look at other women. Hilary lost the white women vote. How in the hell? GusFring Sep 2017 #4

Absolutely true crazycatlady Sep 2017 #5

Black men got the vote before women. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #6

And black women were not welcome in the suffrage movement loyalsister Sep 2017 #25

Agree. I've tried to bring this up - it usually sinks. CousinIT Sep 2017 #7

So as brutally racist as the country is, it is even more brutally sexist? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #8

Very true. Even the pussy grabbing comment treestar Sep 2017 #9

I'm not sure I agree with this. PragmaticLiberal Sep 2017 #10

how much of the thirty years of almost unimaginably hateful attacks on her come from the niyad Sep 2017 #17

Can't say what the percentage is but I'll just say "Alot". PragmaticLiberal Sep 2017 #30

Are U.S. Millennial Men Just as Sexist as Their Dads? TBA Sep 2017 #11

Apples and oranges. Orsino Sep 2017 #12

I think that most often they are so deeply intertwined that it makes separating them out impossible- bettyellen Sep 2017 #27

ABSOLUTELY TRUE--thanks for posting!! niyad Sep 2017 #15

My first reaction is that we don't want to get in a pissing contest over this subject. Nitram Sep 2017 #16

A pissing contest? LOL. LisaM Sep 2017 #28

You don't think women can get involved in pissing contests? JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #34

I was once involved in a unisex pissing contest. Or perhaps "demonstration" would be Nitram Sep 2017 #37

I was hoping you'd be amused. But I am serious aobut wanting to avoid a fruitless argument about Nitram Sep 2017 #38

The 2016 election was all about misogyny and racism. mnhtnbb Sep 2017 #18

What an amazing woman she was. Ran for president too. efhmc Sep 2017 #19

Wonderful page. CrispyQ Sep 2017 #31

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #20

Oppression olympics are useless to the goal of eliminating it on all counts loyalsister Sep 2017 #21

Absolutely true. FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #22

'Fraid so. Hekate Sep 2017 #23

I have heard this from black women many times.. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #26

My son, union man and all around great person mountain grammy Sep 2017 #24

I don't think "one is worse than the other" arguments are helpful wryter2000 Sep 2017 #29

Hillary is way more alpha than Trump IronLionZion Sep 2017 #32

65 Reasons Hillary Clinton Is A Total Badass IronLionZion Sep 2017 #33

Definitely agree. sagesnow Sep 2017 #35

From what I have seen when it comes to racism and Doreen Sep 2017 #36

Pointless comparison gollygee Sep 2017 #40

sexism is far more pervasive than racism Skittles Sep 2017 #45