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Bucky

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76. This is how Sanders "supported" Clinton...

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 01:57 PM

Sep 2017

VIGOROUSLY!!

Sanders: 'Clinton will make an outstanding president'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/bernie-sanders-endorses-hillary-clinton-225412

Bernie Sanders endorses Hillary Clinton
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/index.html

TRANSCRIPT: Sanders - 'Why I'm endorsing Hillary Clinton'
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/287370-transcript-bernie-sanders-formally-endorses-hillary

Bernie Sanders Packs Schedule With Campaign Stops for Hillary Clinton - (October)
https://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-packs-schedule-with-campaign-stops-for-hillary-clinton-1475928002

Bernie Sanders Goes 'All In' for Hillary Clinton With an Eye Toward Post-Election Goals - (November)
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-eye-post-election-goals/story?id=43300037

Were the few "Bernie Bros" absolute tools for not turning out in November? Sure. But Sanders did all he could to get them to vote for her--the record is unambiguous. It was heartbreaking that she didn't close the deal in a few swing states so that the national popular will was thwarted. But he did all he could do to help our side.

That said, I hope he doesn't run in 2020. We need fresh faces on the ticket. Democrats always win when we nominate younger candidates (FDR was 50; Kennedy, 43; Bill Clinton, 46; Obama, 47).

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Clinton: I Urged 08 Supporters to Back Obama, Didnt Get That Respect from Sanders [View all] SpicyBoi Sep 2017 OP

Hillary revoked the credentials of delegates at the convention who wouldn't support Obama. nycbos Sep 2017 #1

That's an autocratic behavior, KPN Sep 2017 #5

This is why there are alternates to the convention. nycbos Sep 2017 #9

I'm glad that this is finally being discussed openly and honestly. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #10

Yes, and now Clinton and her supporters will move on. George II Sep 2017 #159

Like hell we will. When Trump is impeached and the traitors are in prison, maybe then we can... Hekate Sep 2017 #196

They should move on... it's time to unite. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #241

Indeed, when people stop attacking us and demanding that we "bend the knee" Ninsianna Sep 2017 #260

Thank you for that Hekate Sep 2017 #195

Baloney. There are rules for every organization. Look at DU's TOS for starters... Hekate Sep 2017 #235

No baloney. There are written and there are unspoken rules -- two different things. KPN Sep 2017 #245

More sour grapes. KPN Sep 2017 #2

She's simply telling the truth leftynyc Sep 2017 #27

Truth!!!!! revmclaren Sep 2017 #34

There was a big difference also on when he conceded and I'm sick of it too lunasun Sep 2017 #39

Not even a contest on which leftynyc Sep 2017 #49

A tangible difference? yallerdawg Sep 2017 #50

and? Sanders had a platform that actually diverged from Clinton's demonstrably. He did what he JCanete Sep 2017 #89

And..then OK so you understand the OP title . She turned to the traditional formality of conceding lunasun Sep 2017 #94

except that she is painting the two scenarios as if they are exactly the same and that she deserved JCanete Sep 2017 #95

Guess what else was different about the 2 scenarios? Obama v. McCain and Clinton v. Trump. Justice Sep 2017 #144

you have no evidence to support your claim. Nothing to connect Sanders campaign to voters not JCanete Sep 2017 #153

Your well-thought out points are ,, well, can I say 'nuanced,' as they should be. pangaia Sep 2017 #185

The conclusion is drawn by many because it is true. Justice Sep 2017 #224

well that's as circular an argument as they come. People are coming to the conclusion JCanete Sep 2017 #284

Exactly, very well said. Ego, and at a great cost. R B Garr Sep 2017 #160

Ego indeed. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #167

And that's what we all saw when he didn't disavow those supporters and R B Garr Sep 2017 #171

Not true: "Clinton saw the danger that was Trump. Sanders didn't see it" beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #168

LOL! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #172

Wait, so you know that had Sanders conceded earlier Hillary would have won? KPN Sep 2017 #250

Have you considered that the opposite might well be true? Kentonio Sep 2017 #263

She did deserve the same treatment mcar Sep 2017 #226

Yup, the Party would have echoed Rahm: KPN Sep 2017 #249

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Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #77

Indeed.nt WhiteTara Sep 2017 #186

++++++++ R B Garr Sep 2017 #252

I guess she wasn't listening to his concession speech LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #187

Sounds pretty gracious to me. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #242

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #230

The library is open late tonight! DesertRat Sep 2017 #231

I can't believe it's not butter! greatauntoftriplets Sep 2017 #233

. DesertRat Sep 2017 #238

ME EITHER!!!1111 greatauntoftriplets Sep 2017 #239

speaking of Russian Trolls JI7 Sep 2017 #236

A simplistic bias often demands we translate accuracy as "sour grapes." LanternWaste Sep 2017 #58

Simplistic bias? KPN Sep 2017 #251

Not sour grapes. Facts joeybee12 Sep 2017 #82

Who are these people here that you speak of? KPN Sep 2017 #253

"Do you really expect the millions of young people to vote Dem just because of the label "Dem"?" LiberalLovinLug Sep 2017 #282

ah yes, tell the little woman to sit down and shut up. nice. niyad Sep 2017 #86

You are assigning many assumptions to what I said. KPN Sep 2017 #91

no, I think I got the message loud and clear. niyad Sep 2017 #93

Not. Explain to me "the little lady" part. KPN Sep 2017 #106

Sour grapes? BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #150

You make my case. KPN Sep 2017 #254

some case. BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #255

sorry it escapes you. KPN Sep 2017 #256

Ok BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #257

+1 Owl Sep 2017 #183

That is simply not true Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #3

Absolutely. He was unequivocal about it. NT enough Sep 2017 #32

Mmmm, as I recall he and his people were going on TV saying all american girl Sep 2017 #102

Not only that Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #131

Yep, but too many people want to rewrite history all american girl Sep 2017 #142

Did HE do that? Or did supporters do that? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #146

Before the convention happened he and his campaign all american girl Sep 2017 #158

There were no shortage of HRC supporters who pledged to vote for McCain Major Nikon Sep 2017 #225

As has been pointed out, Hillary and Obama were much R B Garr Sep 2017 #246

If anything that directly contradicts the previous point Major Nikon Sep 2017 #269

Is this a response to my post? Not sure what "more suporters" has to do with R B Garr Sep 2017 #275

You replied to my response to a previous post Major Nikon Sep 2017 #276

Okay. I did see the post you responded to, and "more supporters" wasn't the crux of it. R B Garr Sep 2017 #277

Folks with sour grapes are just part of convention politics Major Nikon Sep 2017 #278

Hillary was correct in her book observations, though. She was not given the respect R B Garr Sep 2017 #281

I think PUMAs are at the heart.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #274

Not starting at the normal time for it treestar Sep 2017 #127

So did she in 2008 Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #129

Not as long treestar Sep 2017 #130

No, they were basically tied... all american girl Sep 2017 #149

Yes, it was disgusting to watch, even after the primary contest ended. The cynicism about Democrats R B Garr Sep 2017 #165

Is there a public statement where he asked his supporters to vote for her? haveahart Sep 2017 #178

Yes; someone already put it on this thread! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #198

Yes, exactly! nt Raine Sep 2017 #207

Sanders voters voted for Clinton at a higher rate Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Sep 2017 #6

The more that she attacks Bernie... SpicyBoi Sep 2017 #7

She's not attacking anyone. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #12

Saying you didn't get respect from someone... SpicyBoi Sep 2017 #18

That's correct. It's factual and neutral... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #21

So calling Bernie supporters racist and sexist SpicyBoi Sep 2017 #23

Can I have a link to Hillary leftynyc Sep 2017 #29

who knows heaven05 Sep 2017 #64

'someone is only accustomed to hearing nothing but praise for their favorite politician' melman Sep 2017 #30

LOL! I assure you, I'm not at all accustomed to hearing nonstop praise for Hillary. :-) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #37

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LOL! That was your point? NurseJackie Sep 2017 #66

! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #136

Seems a most substantive, irrelevant and petulant point to make. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #63

No, not factual "Sanders: 'Clinton will make an outstanding president'" Bucky Sep 2017 #61

and since then? heaven05 Sep 2017 #75

We're talking about the 2016 election. If you want a new discussion, start a new thread. Bucky Sep 2017 #81

yeah, yeah heaven05 Sep 2017 #181

Way to move the goalposts. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #105

no heaven05 Sep 2017 #184

Excellent research and use of ACTUAL FACTS! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #133

this is what I remembered too Kali Sep 2017 #234

But it's not factual. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #104

Except it isn't factual mythology Sep 2017 #117

It's not factual. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #134

No it's not an attack. She said what she did when Obama defeated her in 2008, and she said.... George II Sep 2017 #114

No, it is not an attack mcar Sep 2017 #227

Of course she is melman Sep 2017 #26

LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #28

I decided to delete the comment you responded to because m-lekktor Sep 2017 #13

It doesn't do anything for us... SpicyBoi Sep 2017 #17

No, it wasn't just about "catching fire", it was a cynical tactic to blame R B Garr Sep 2017 #38

Yup. True dat Arazi Sep 2017 #46

I'd Say She Lit Millions More Fires Me. Sep 2017 #54

That's not an attack. She's stating facts as she saw them. George II Sep 2017 #42

"Facts as she saw them"... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #113

Aren't "facts as you see them" nothing more than "alternate facts"? Autumn Sep 2017 #162

Why, yes, I believe they are, Autumn. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #169

I knew it seemed familiar Autumn Sep 2017 #176

It is a fact that she directed her supporters towards Obama more than he did his R B Garr Sep 2017 #151

When did Sanders become a Democrat? procon Sep 2017 #74

It's always going to come down to this: Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #22

when the economy was in literal free fall dsc Sep 2017 #25

So you're saying Obama loses if that's not the case? BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #154

Not to mention the stronger by far economy our party left up for grabs. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #161

After First Beating A Senator Of Many DEcades Me. Sep 2017 #59

Yeah, you're right. Hillary would have never beat McCain. Right? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #92

No Need For Snark Me. Sep 2017 #112

Don't like when faulty logic gets turned aound, eh? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #180

The Only Faulty Logic Is Yours Me. Sep 2017 #189

No not correct - Obama didn't have to cheat to win FakeNoose Sep 2017 #96

It wouldn't have done him any good. Obama actually had a positive approval rating. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #103

I think we're saying the same thing a different way (?) FakeNoose Sep 2017 #116

Yep. Facts are inconvenient things. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #163

+1,000,000 beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #155

Is there proof of that? treestar Sep 2017 #125

This IS starting to get old. KPN Sep 2017 #8

LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #11

Sanders did tell his people to vote for her. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #14

Uh-huh. Right. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #16

And she wonders why she lost? sacto95834 Sep 2017 #266

She's not "wondering" about it at all. She knows. She's telling us exactly What Happened. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #267

Thank you for chiming in and making good points. KPN Sep 2017 #247

Have you read the book, or just "reviews" of selected excerpts? George II Sep 2017 #44

Just reviews/excerpts. KPN Sep 2017 #101

The fact is that her comments about Sanders that can be construed as negative* are outweighed.... George II Sep 2017 #115

I will read the book and make up my own mind on that. KPN Sep 2017 #248

Oh please, even though she had more votes in 2008... johnsonsnap Sep 2017 #143

Strikes me as one strong woman telling the truth. Justice Sep 2017 #148

They booed her at the convention during her speech JI7 Sep 2017 #15

I remember that moment. It was very bad. It was embarrassing... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #19

Yeah some of us have memories and he said he was bringing them to the convention lunasun Sep 2017 #48

Yes, great proof right there. Sarah Silverman telling them they were being ridiculous. R B Garr Sep 2017 #175

Note the McCarthyism here. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #57

thank you for this sane post ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #97

Thank you for that post. KPN Sep 2017 #107

+1 n/t n2doc Sep 2017 #109

Thank you shanny Sep 2017 #111

Excellent rebuttal! Nicely done! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #137

Now that is an utterly meritless post. Justice Sep 2017 #152

Exactly, it is a hilarious post. Comparing the behavior we all saw on national R B Garr Sep 2017 #190

That was at the convention when tensions were high...did Bernie not endorse her at that very convent WoonTars Sep 2017 #200

You should take your own advice. R B Garr Sep 2017 #201

I'm not the one here getting all mad about something that happened a year ago. WoonTars Sep 2017 #203

You should take your own advice. There are a lot of things I could suggest for you to do. nt R B Garr Sep 2017 #205

Likewise. WoonTars Sep 2017 #214

Oh, I figured that's what this was really about. Time to move on from 2016 in R B Garr Sep 2017 #216

This is really about 2018. Try and keep up. WoonTars Sep 2017 #220

Your comment to a long-term DUer told me a lot about your "fixations", R B Garr Sep 2017 #223

Please show me where i "told you what to think"... WoonTars Sep 2017 #228

I suggest you quit whining, too. R B Garr Sep 2017 #237

Project much? WoonTars Sep 2017 #199

Thank you. Agreed 1000% nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #188

Thank you. n/t QC Sep 2017 #191

Very well said. Thank you. nt Curmudgeoness Sep 2017 #192

Excellent post Lordquinton Sep 2017 #206

thank you Heddi Sep 2017 #211

Good points, Jim. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #283

Which has nothing to do with this topic Lordquinton Sep 2017 #208

The PUMAs were frauds. Bleacher Creature Sep 2017 #20

Except of course this guy Egnever Sep 2017 #33

the PUMAs were frauds but the BernieBros were the real deal? Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #193

Neither Obama nor Clinton demeaned the Democratic party. That is the huge difference R B Garr Sep 2017 #197

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. WoonTars Sep 2017 #202

You should take your own advice. Deal with it yourself. And it certainly R B Garr Sep 2017 #204

Oh please... WoonTars Sep 2017 #213

You should take your own advice. I've seen your posts and you should take R B Garr Sep 2017 #215

I'm sorry, "that was last year"? Remind me, of the two of them who is still in politics? WoonTars Sep 2017 #218

My fixation is getting Democrats elected. The biggest way to help is not smear them and R B Garr Sep 2017 #222

Never told you what to think. WoonTars Sep 2017 #229

This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Sep 2017 #24

Everytime I feel sympathy for Clinton she does stuff like this. white_wolf Sep 2017 #31

That's how I remember it, too. Vinca Sep 2017 #35

He would have sabotaged her even more as VP candidate. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #84

you certainly are smearing people very vigorously with very little evidence ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #98

I have opinions just like everyone else here at DU comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #108

And the ability to predict things that didn't happen ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #139

I don't think they despised each other. You're mistaking Bernie's natural, cranky nature Vinca Sep 2017 #164

He didn't campaign for her in June or July, even though his win was mathematically pnwmom Sep 2017 #126

He campaigned for her plenty and other DUers in this thread have provided video and transcripts. eom white_wolf Sep 2017 #132

Nothing I said was untrue. Waiting till the second half of September was waiting too long. pnwmom Sep 2017 #135

He announced his support for her at the DNC. white_wolf Sep 2017 #140

Like I said, too little, too late. pnwmom Sep 2017 #145

Amen. I agree 100% left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #36

LOL. She's not seeking sympathy. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #41

I don't care what she's doing. Her comments were simply false. white_wolf Sep 2017 #45

I believe she's telling the truth. (Are you calling Hillary a liar?) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #56

She's either lying or mistaken white_wolf Sep 2017 #65

"Attack me all you want, use the alert button." Nobody is attacking you. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #71

In this instance, she is wrong. white_wolf Sep 2017 #90

It can only be one of those things. I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt for now Autumn Sep 2017 #87

I can't speak for white wolf, but I'll give you my own answer. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #79

Well said. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2017 #179

Well the propaganda worked well on you - calling our nominee a liar is bad form. bettyellen Sep 2017 #69

Her statements aren't correct. white_wolf Sep 2017 #72

Nicely done. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #141

This is how Sanders "supported" Clinton... Bucky Sep 2017 #76

thank you ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #99

Some support lunamagica Sep 2017 #261

He didn't do a single campaign event till the two he did in September. pnwmom Sep 2017 #128

And dont forget the tantrum he threw, when asked to make an ad: Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2017 #259

Such a petty, small man lunamagica Sep 2017 #262

Goddamn. The Clinton hate is strong on this motherfucker today. nt LexVegas Sep 2017 #40

I noticed that. revmclaren Sep 2017 #53

Wrong! Chasstev365 Sep 2017 #78

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2017 #110

It hsbn't gone unnoticed. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #194

Do you recommend that those of us who voted for Bernie emulate you? Jim Lane Sep 2017 #212

My perspective? I will NEVER forgive not forget those who put Trump in office. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #221

There is, of course, some difference in perspective as to who put Trump in office. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #232

Nothing you have to say will EVER change my perspective as to who is responsible. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #244

Is that statement not true? By the way, she wasn't only talking about anyone's supporters.... George II Sep 2017 #51

Yeah it's untrue. white_wolf Sep 2017 #52

I guess it's a matter of opinion or interpretation. As I said, Clinton was on the floor... George II Sep 2017 #68

He damned her w feint praise. Spent weeks writing a book instead of stumping for her.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #73

Direct quotes from Snopes quoting Sanders. Doesn't seem to be asking voters to vote for Clinton haveahart Sep 2017 #182

Everyone wants to ignore that month long mess it seems. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #55

I believe some MFM008 Sep 2017 #60

That is complete bullshit. alarimer Sep 2017 #62

Wake me up when the book tour is over BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #67

I gloomily suspect that that won't help. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #85

That's not true. Sanders did urge us to vote for her and most of us did. Autumn Sep 2017 #70

If Bernie had never been born, would Hillary have won the general? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #80

Probably not. In fact, she wouldn't have done as well as she actually did. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #88

that's exactly right ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #100

Good point, if he had run as a spoiler they would be right to accuse him of that. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #147

If he had never been allowed to run as a Democrat treestar Sep 2017 #124

I completely disagree, but I have a question I've never gotten answered. Jim Lane Sep 2017 #177

the PUMAs voted for Clinton BainsBane Sep 2017 #83

... TDale313 Sep 2017 #118

Oh Hillary Lazy Daisy Sep 2017 #119

and the circular firing squad continues (referring to the comments in this thread). nt Javaman Sep 2017 #120

Was this a lie? "Sanders pleads with supporters to vote for Hillary." mainer Sep 2017 #121

She campaigned hard for Obama, beginning in early June. pnwmom Sep 2017 #122

"His support was lukewarm, at best, and his supporters knew it." NurseJackie Sep 2017 #166

Sorry Hillary, I'm all wallowed out. jalan48 Sep 2017 #123

+1 beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #156

I like your typo. pnwmom Sep 2017 #170

Holy shit melman Sep 2017 #173

Some people have a sense of humor, some don't. n/t pnwmom Sep 2017 #174

I considered voting for Bernie as a write-in, but I voted for Hilary because CozyMystery Sep 2017 #209

I sure hope we have a new candidate come 2020. No repeats. grossproffit Sep 2017 #210

Idiots snort Sep 2017 #217

She is exactly right. nt Blue_true Sep 2017 #219

Sanders did more harm than good Lil Missy Sep 2017 #240

I know someone who isn't getting a Christmas card from the Clintons this year... egduj Sep 2017 #243

Sanders demanded grifter Cornel West on the platform committe Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2017 #258

Thanks for reminding us of these truths. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #272

As I age I question my memory of events more than I did as a younger retread. Did not Ms Clinton retread Sep 2017 #264

Do you remember her justification for campaigning after California? QC Sep 2017 #265

I had forgotten/supressed that one! retread Sep 2017 #270

It was so respectful!!!! n/t QC Sep 2017 #273

Respect is a funny thing. You sometimes have to give it to get it. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #268

LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #271

5700+ Views, 275+ Replies ... and only 18 Recs. Yeah, that's about how I'd expect this to go. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #279

SMH chwaliszewski Sep 2017 #280