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WyattKansas

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91. Bernie did mention dental and vision on tv last night.

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:07 PM

Sep 2017

So yes, Bernie is very aware of it and the importance of it. I think it is more important for health care in general to move to the Medicare for all model and get rid of the Extortion Wealth Care Racket that all of America is crippled with instead of health care. Once you do that, then there will be funding available for needs that have been neglected in favor of our vulture capitalism medical system.

And here is the most important point for the Democratic Party to understand... Unless you start mentioning it and start demanding it as a right in this country, then you will never receive any help or even consideration for it. After all, war profiteers and the wealthy elite understand the importance of demanding what they claim to first need and now just want.

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Bernie Sanders' Bill Gets America Zero Percent Closer to Single Payer [View all] brooklynite Sep 2017 OP

"by accident" my ass leftstreet Sep 2017 #1

Don't know what you're talking about. onit2day Sep 2017 #33

This makes no sense leftstreet Sep 2017 #35

Are you saying medicare covers dental, vision and hearing? ollie10 Sep 2017 #43

Unless you have some kind of advantage plan, dental is not covered, and vision for glasses is not still_one Sep 2017 #66

Bernie did mention dental and vision on tv last night. WyattKansas Sep 2017 #91

"Pointing out the immense political obstacles to single-payer is NOT the same as being against it." NurseJackie Sep 2017 #2

It must be troubling to have so many Democrats Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #7

What troubles me is the traitor, nazi racist in the WH Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #55

What a weird thing to say. Why should that be troubling? NurseJackie Sep 2017 #63

Single payer isn't the answer. Not yet. kstewart33 Sep 2017 #31

Kindly explain this to me: jamesatemple Sep 2017 #53

I join you in wondering the same...why are all "tax increases" still dirty words??? Moostache Sep 2017 #65

Remember George HW Bush's infamous statement? kstewart33 Sep 2017 #71

Jonathan Chait is a washed-up neoliberal dick. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #3

What a puzzle . . . GaryCnf Sep 2017 #4

"a Bernie hater like Chait" left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #34

Yes let's rain on the parade. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #5

Better still, lets not threaten to Primary every otherwise reliable Democrat who doesn't sign on brooklynite Sep 2017 #14

so we are in agreement: we should all get on board and stop fighting over this issue. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #19

Have a parade when we have a well-vetted plan that passes. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #39

+1 tecelote Sep 2017 #40

This is not a parade but a funeral march for the many who depend on the ACA. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #72

tp 3: somehow supporting medicare for all will kill the ACA instead. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #93

More specifically regarding the already insured is that those 155 million must get equal or better stevenleser Sep 2017 #6

Medicare would have to be modified ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #13

Yes, and if you dare point that out to the wrong people, You're the devil! stevenleser Sep 2017 #28

i get really bothered ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #30

They don't want to change...and that is why Hillarycare went south...find a plan like a public Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #73

It's a battle that will take years to win but it's worth having Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #8

Do you think the majority of insured who get it at work will support single payer? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #50

We need to protect what we have now...while we wage this 'war' which we may not win. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #74

The value in this is showing that the Democratic Party stands FOR something. Demit Sep 2017 #9

no shit. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #17

I don't think single payer will work. I am for universal coverage however. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #75

So what happens if this passed and a pres signed it ? JI7 Sep 2017 #10

It doesn't work that way... brooklynite Sep 2017 #16

the funding is detailed in the bill. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #18

What president will sign it? And only a super majority can pass it. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #49

Right. So, CAMPAIGN ON SINGLE PAYER, LAND ON THE PUBLIC OPTION. yodermon Sep 2017 #11

Yes they are ...single payer won't work anyway, but we won't ever get it in the first place. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #47

or be demonized and lose big and lose the ACA and a public option. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #77

I never listen to that hack Chait. HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #12

Throwing up your hands saying it's never ever going to happen means you might as well be against it Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #15

may the FUD be with you. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #20

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #21

No we can't! Got that America? jalan48 Sep 2017 #22

"Man, we are NEVER going to see the abolition of Jim Crow, so what's bullwinkle428 Sep 2017 #23

ouch tiredtoo Sep 2017 #26

Lol, of course Chait is against it Arazi Sep 2017 #24

We know. Single payer will never ever happen. It's the Republican mantra. Autumn Sep 2017 #25

Give me a plausible scenario how Sen. Sander's bill becomes law. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #46

Same as the ACA, we work on it until we get it. Autumn Sep 2017 #58

That is not how we got the ACA...tell me right now how this bill becomes law. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #60

Are you telling me that our Dems didn't work on the ACA until Obama signed it into law? Autumn Sep 2017 #61

We had the Congress and the presidency...did we 'work' on it during the Bush years other Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #68

We must only discuss/ attempt important things when we have Congress and the presidency. Right. Autumn Sep 2017 #69

Well introducing this bill when it has no chance of passing reminds me of the 50 times the GOP Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #70

I can see why you would think that. Autumn Sep 2017 #90

This is Chait, by the way: HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #27

We can't get movement on climate change or fair taxes either. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #29

Same naysayers told us to STFU about marriage equality RandiFan1290 Sep 2017 #32

This. n/t ms liberty Sep 2017 #48

This isn't really an equitable comparison because single payer costs literally R B Garr Sep 2017 #67

I never said that...civil rights are not part of politics...but consider those on the left left Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #78

Chait is a concern troll mentalslavery Sep 2017 #36

And the Real Reason for a decade of Democratic Loses eom LarryNM Sep 2017 #37

and a little context to boot mentalslavery Sep 2017 #38

Which will never happen...and Sen. Sanders has certainly made some comments Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #42

The gerrymander and the fact...that we passed a health care plan in 09 Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #45

So true...I do not believe single payer is possible...in a bill like Sen. Sanders is Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #41

We must try, and keep trying Sienna86 Sep 2017 #44

Bernie persisted Not Ruth Sep 2017 #51

nevertheless....bernie persisted nt mentalslavery Sep 2017 #56

To what end? It won't become law...would that he would persist in saving the only health care we Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #79

Many important things take time, civil rights for example Not Ruth Sep 2017 #82

So people who need insurance now are unimportant? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #84

All I want to know is what protects us from the liars who say we have the "greatest healthcare ck4829 Sep 2017 #52

Just getting more people talking about it helps to add legitimacy Dustlawyer Sep 2017 #54

Yeeeeppp...control the narrative...while we are talkin single payer mentalslavery Sep 2017 #57

Chait's still around? n/t QC Sep 2017 #59

Pointing out the immense political obstacles is fuckin easy. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #62

indeed. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #64

No it is not...when you have a plan that needs to be saved and instead you go all out on a plan Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #80

Maybe this option is worrisome enough to motivate Republicans to save ACA. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #83

It isn't. They want nothing and can use this to get rid of all health care. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #88

Ah yes, another Bettie Sep 2017 #76

I would bet, and I will save this post that a year from now...single payer will not be Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #81

Right now, with a fully Republican congress Bettie Sep 2017 #86

'Zero is everything; everything is zero. This is Zen mathematics' Donkees Sep 2017 #85

It's about health care as a RIGHT. alarimer Sep 2017 #87

Is that the point of their pushing this now? I don't think it is. CousinIT Sep 2017 #89

The problem with this approach is that Republicans are going to dictate the negatives Calista241 Sep 2017 #92