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HarmonyRockets

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Thu Sep 14, 2017, 05:33 PM
Sep 2017

It took forever to copy and paste this over from a PDF and correct all the formatting, but here it is:

OPTIONS TO FINANCE MEDICARE FOR ALL

Introduction

Today, the United States spends more than $3.2 trillion a year on health care. About sixty-five percent of this funding, over $2 trillion, is spent on publicly financed health care programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs. At $10,000 per person, the United States spends far more on health care per capita and as a percentage of GDP than any other country on earth in both the public and private sectors while still leaving 28 million Americans uninsured and millions more under-insured.

Today, health care spending in the U.S. accounts for nearly 18 percent of our Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and is on track to total over 20 percent of GDP over the next decade. It is projected that if we do nothing and maintain our current dysfunctional system that we will spend $49 trillion over the next decade on health care. That would be an incredible burden on businesses, working families, and the entire economy.

The most cost-effective and popular solution to this health care crisis is to guarantee health care as a right through a Medicare-for-all single-payer health care system.

Today, the traditional Medicare program only spends two percent of its costs on administration. That’s less than one-sixth the administrative costs of private health insurance companies.

Studies have found that our federal government could save up to $500 billion per year on administrative costs by moving to a Medicare for All, single-payer health care system.

Moreover, the United States pays, by far, the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs because Congress has done nothing to regulate the price of medicine. If the U.S. joined the rest of the industrialized world and negotiated with the pharmaceutical companies to lower prices, our country could save up to $113 billion per year.

As the wealthiest country in the world, we have a variety of options available to support a Medicare for All single-payer health care system that guarantees high quality, affordable health care as a right, not a privilege, to every man, woman, and child in this country. This paper explains just some of the policies that could provide revenue to finance Medicare for All. Under every single one of these options the average American family will save thousands of dollars a year because they will no longer be writing large checks to private health insurance companies.

If every major industrialized nation on Earth can make health care a right, provide universal coverage to all, achieve far better health outcomes in terms of life expectancy and infant mortality, while spending far less per capita than we do, it is absurd to suggest the United States of America, the wealthiest nation in the history of the world, cannot do the same.

In my view, there needs to be vigorous debate as to the best way to finance our Medicare for All legislation. Unlike the Republican leadership in Congress which held no hearings on their disastrous bill which would have thrown 32 million off of health insurance and dealt with one-sixth of the American economy, it is our intention to get the best ideas we can from economists, doctors, nurses, and ordinary Americans. Below are a number of options to begin that discussion. Under each and every one of these options the average American family will end up in a better financial position than they are under the current system.

Options to Save Families and Businesses on Health Care Expenses

7.5 percent income-based premium paid by employers
Revenue raised: $3.9 trillion over ten years.

Businesses would save over $9,000 in health care costs for the average employee under this option


In 2016, employers paid an average of $12,865 in private health insurance premiums for a worker with a family of four who makes $50,000 a year. Under this option, employers would pay a 7.5 percent payroll tax to help finance Medicare for All – just $3,750 – a savings of more than $9,000 a year for that employee.

During the four-year transition period to guarantee health care as a right, millions of workers will have the option to transfer from their employer-provided health care to the new Medicare for All system. As workers shift into the new system, employers will be required to pay either 75 percent of what they are currently paying for health care costs for each of their employees who enroll in Medicare for All, or the 7.5 percent payroll tax, whichever is higher.

An employer’s first $2 million in payroll would be exempt from this premium protecting small businesses throughout the country.

4 percent income-based premium paid by households
Revenue raised: $3.5 trillion over ten years.

The typical middle class family would save over $4,400 under this plan.

Last year the typical working family paid an average of $5,277 in premiums to private health insurance companies. Under this option, a typical family of four earning $50,000, after taking the standard deduction, would pay a 4 percent income-based premium to fund Medicare for All – just $844 a year – saving that family over $4,400 a year. Because of the standard deduction, families of four making less than $29,000 a year would not pay this premium.

Savings from Health Tax Expenditures
Revenue raised: $4.2 trillion over ten years.

Several tax breaks that subsidize health care would become obsolete and disappear under Medicare for All. The biggest health expenditure is the preference that excludes employer-paid premiums from payroll and income taxes. This is a significant tax break that would be eliminated under this plan because all Americans would receive health care through the new
Medicare for All program instead of employer-based health care. The exclusion for contributions to cafeteria plans and the medical expense deduction will also be eliminated.

Options to Make the Wealthy Pay Their Fair Share

Make the Personal Income Tax More Progressive
Revenue raised: $1.8 trillion over ten years.


Another option is to reform the personal income tax system by strengthening progressive income tax rates, taxing capital gains and dividends the same as work income, limiting deductions for the wealthy, taxing carried interest as ordinary income, and requiring derivatives to be marked to market.

o Progressive income tax rates.
Under this plan the marginal income tax rate would be:
§ 40 percent on income between $250,000 and $500,000.
§ 45 percent on income between $500,000 and $2 million.
§ 50 percent on income between $2 million and $10 million. (In 2014, only 136,000 households, the top 0.1 percent of taxpayers, had income between $2 million and $10 million.)
§ 52 percent on income above $10 million. (In 2014, only 16,700 households, just 0.02 percent of taxpayers, had income exceeding $10 million.)

o Taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work. Warren Buffett, the second-wealthiest American in the country, has said that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. This is because he receives most of his income from capital gains and dividends, which are taxed at a much lower rate than income from work. This option would end the special tax break for capital gains and dividends on household income above $250,000, treating this income the same as income earned from working.

Taxing all income received by the rich at the same rates would simplify the tax code and eliminate the opportunities to game the system by making other types of income appear to be capital gains or dividends. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that 68 percent of the benefits of the special income tax rates for capital gains and dividends went to the richest one percent of Americans in 2013.

o Limit tax deductions for the wealthy. Wealthier households are able to take advantage of various itemized deductions that generally do not provide any benefit to lower income workers. Under this proposal, itemized deductions would be capped at 28 percent for households making over $250,000. In other words, for every dollar in tax deduction a high-income household could save at most 28 cents. This limit would replace more complicated and less effective limits on tax breaks for the rich.

Make the Estate Tax More Progressive
Revenue raised: $249 billion over ten years.

Currently the estate tax only applies to the wealthiest 0.2 percent of Americans. In other words, 99.8 percent are not impacted by this tax. Under this option, the estate tax would return to the exemptions that were in effect in 2009 and rates would be made more progressive. Specifically, the plan would exempt the first $3.5 million of a single person’s estate and the first $7 million of a married couple’s estate.

The existing flat 40 percent estate tax rate would be replaced with the following progressive rates:

o 45 percent for the value of an estate between $3.5 million and $10 million.
o 50 percent for the value of an estate between $10 million and $50 million.
o 55 percent for the value of an estate in excess of $50 million.
o An additional 10 percent surtax would apply to estate value in excess of $500 million ($1 billion for married couples). Further, the proposal:
o Closes loopholes for “grantor retained annuity trusts” (GRATs) and other types of trusts and valuation techniques that have allowed the Walton family of Wal-Mart and other billionaires to save over $100 billion in taxes since 2000; and
o Increases existing protections for farmland and conservation.

Establish a Wealth Tax on the Top 0.1 percent
Revenue raised: $1.3 trillion over ten years.

Over the past several decades America has experienced an explosion of wealth concentration. Today the wealthiest 0.1 percent – just 160,000 households – own nearly the same amount of wealth as the bottom 90 percent. Meanwhile, a report from the Institute on Policy Studies concludes that America’s 20 richest individuals now own more wealth than the entire bottom half of the American population.

This severe inequality threatens to warp our democracy by concentrating too much power in the hands of a tiny elite. It also holds back our economy, funneling resources to a few families rather than creating the broad base of middle-class consumers that can drive economic growth.

This option would establish an annual 1 percent federal wealth tax on the net worth of the wealthiest 0.1 percent of U.S. households. The tax would apply to net worth exceeding $21 million for a household. That means a household with $21.5 million would pay 1 percent of $500,000, or $5,000.

Close the Gingrich-Edwards Loophole and Create Parity for Wealthy Business Owners
Revenue raised: $247 billion over ten years.

This option closes the Gingrich-Edwards loophole which allows individuals who own and run an S-Corporation to game the system and avoid paying payroll taxes by claiming some income as business profits. Under current law, these business owners are required to report a “reasonable” amount of salary income and pay the appropriate amount of payroll tax. However, many times these individuals deliberately under-report a reasonable salary in order to avoid these taxes.

Additionally, this option would ensure that all business income of high-income people would be subject to the existing 3.8 percent tax to fund Medicare, either through the net investment income tax or the additional Medicare tax on earned income. These taxes were designed to ensure that high-income people pay the 3.8 percent Medicare tax on all income, regardless of the source. However, some business income slips through the crack and is not subject to either tax. This proposal would close that loophole.

Options to Make Wall Street and Large, Profitable Corporation Pay Their Fair Share

Impose a one-time tax on currently held offshore profits
Revenue raised: $767 billion over ten years.


For years corporations have been avoiding paying their fair share of taxes by stashing their cash in the Cayman Islands and other offshore tax havens where there is no corporate income tax rate. This situation has become so absurd that one five-story office building in the Cayman Islands is the “home” to close to 20,000 companies.

Today corporations hold a staggering $2.6 trillion offshore in order to avoid paying taxes in the U.S. Under current law, a corporation does not pay corporate taxes on these profits until it sends, or “repatriates”, the money back to the U.S. This option would require these companies to pay a one-time tax now, based on what they owe under current law.

Impose a Fee on Large Financial Institutions
Revenue raised: $117 billion over ten years.


Today, the six major financial institutions in this country have over $10 trillion in assets, equivalent to 56 percent of our entire GDP. The largest financial institution, JP Morgan Chase, has received more than $22.2 billion in tax breaks since 2008. Meanwhile, during the financial crisis, JP Morgan Chase received a $391 billion bailout from the Federal Reserve. It is time that Wall Street start paying its fair share in taxes. One option would be to impose a fee of seven basis points (.07 percent) on covered liabilities of financial institutions with $50 billion or more in total assets, as proposed by President Obama.

Repeal Corporate Accounting Gimmicks
Revenue raised: $112 billion ten years.

This option would eliminate the “last-in, first-out” (LIFO) accounting method that allows corporations to manipulate their inventory and make it appear like they have lower profits. They do this by deducting the higher cost of newer inventory, rather than the lower cost of older inventory, resulting in lower profits and lower taxes. Democrats and Republicans have both supported repealing LIFO in various budget and tax reform proposals.

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Why in the WORLD would he put forth a bill like this, ESPECIALLY this and not Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #1
Read? Reading? HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #7
Why dont you copy and paste for us the details of how it is paid for. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #9
Why don't you just go ahead and read it. HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #16
I am waiting for someone to copy and paste the detailed explanation here Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #17
I just read it ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #45
is there some magic way to do it that would not require tax revision? Egnever Sep 2017 #70
I read it to, and I am not even sure if the revenue he is suggesting is enough. There are a lot of still_one Sep 2017 #92
OK, well if it does describe in detail how to pay for it, and if the problem Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #122
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #141
Here HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #142
Perfect, and it will work, but not until Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #143
I didn't see any of that in what was proposed on Wednesday. In fact none of that... George II Sep 2017 #145
Guess that would take too much effort. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #126
Ok I read it and it involves raising taxes substantially and does not address the 20% gap Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #118
It's just aspirational symbolism for now greeny2323 Sep 2017 #2
I agree with that.... but.... Adrahil Sep 2017 #29
Thank God we have Schumer and Pelosi trying to fix DACA and the ACA. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #113
Bingo. You touched on the only thing that matters BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #44
Aspirational for what....a successful bill or something else? George II Sep 2017 #52
To be fair, 45 has floated a lot of stuff without basis in reality. forgotmylogin Sep 2017 #97
Ding Ding. Ding! peggysue2 Sep 2017 #98
Over 100 house members signed on to Conyers bill delisen Sep 2017 #102
Republicans control congress right now. JI7 Sep 2017 #3
The GOP has already started: factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #5
Just to be clear HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #12
MOre likely the poster is showing you now what at least half the country believes Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #19
I think the smart part is making people want it first. Demit Sep 2017 #34
You were provided a link to how to pay for it and you refused to click on it. scipan Sep 2017 #138
The problem is that Bernie's bill.... Adrahil Sep 2017 #31
There are options HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #32
Not good enough. Adrahil Sep 2017 #33
Legislators don't pass laws based on "options". George II Sep 2017 #146
Bernie doesn't know how to build consensus. LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #58
Just like when the fucking John F. Kennedy talked about going to the moon Gore1FL Sep 2017 #86
Right? beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #87
Thanks! ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #119
Other countries have single payer MyNameGoesHere Sep 2017 #120
See his website for more specifics. Gore1FL Sep 2017 #144
The responses to that tweet are awesome. n/t TCJ70 Sep 2017 #36
Yeah they are! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #83
Thanks! Those were fun to read! nt Gore1FL Sep 2017 #90
Uh HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #4
:) Donkees Sep 2017 #15
So Sanders require Trump tax reform to match up with his "options"..its just empty words. factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #18
Well lookie there... beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #23
Rep. Conyers Funding of H.R.676 - Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #25
There you go HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #27
You're kidding, right? All that says is "taxes, if passed in the future, will pay for it." SunSeeker Sep 2017 #114
The same way they fund wars and tax cuts. dogman Sep 2017 #6
The status quo is all we have for the foreseeable future. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #13
And they wonder why Dems lose. dogman Sep 2017 #20
I stand with Senator Booker, Senator Harris, and Senator Gillibrand! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #8
But the REPUBLICANS DON'T LIKE IT! And they're TWEETING! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #14
In some alternate universe, this exact same proposal has been raised in the Senate, but without Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #112
Yeah, that's where it looked like this was headed -- no costs attached. I think that's R B Garr Sep 2017 #10
I expect the "concern troll" label will be applied tymorial Sep 2017 #28
Oh, your observation has been coming true all over the place. Any comments R B Garr Sep 2017 #139
Its not serious. Its more bullshit. nt LexVegas Sep 2017 #11
Yep, it will definitely cost usa few seats in 2018 because of how stupid it is. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #21
What a real Democrat looks like HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #22
I stand with Senator Cory Booker! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #24
Cory Booker 2020! R B Garr Sep 2017 #93
This has been my thought too tymorial Sep 2017 #26
WOW HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #30
Cory Booker (D-N.J.) voted no on prescription drug price legislation factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #35
Looking for redemption? dogman Sep 2017 #46
Booker is a co-sponsor of the Affordable and Safe Prescription Drug Importation Act tammywammy Sep 2017 #94
In Canada, imported drugs are subject to strict regulations. lapucelle Sep 2017 #115
Very disappointing to say the least. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #127
And then he voted yes on an amended proposal a week later- out of the loop? bettyellen Sep 2017 #136
I agree with you. It really is interesting.nt chowder66 Sep 2017 #39
Yup. Can't imagine why. pangaia Sep 2017 #60
Most people already pay a lot in taxes for their healthcare. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #37
right, Some seem to forget the expenses that will disappear or be greatly reduced... pangaia Sep 2017 #63
I mentioned this in another thread: guillaumeb Sep 2017 #66
Conservatives in other countries are.. what... moderates? here. pangaia Sep 2017 #76
I would not have to move too far. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #79
We would be better off rallying around a public option. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #38
This is absolutely the way to go. Half the nation wouldn't want to give R B Garr Sep 2017 #40
Medicare-for-all would be the ultimate freedom of choice... TCJ70 Sep 2017 #41
How would it be the ultimate freedom of choice if you can only choose from one plan? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #42
What kind of argument is that? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #48
It's a good argument. That's what it is. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #50
No they do not. leftofcool Sep 2017 #59
that's the smart thing to do at the moment. JHan Sep 2017 #111
Nice dose of reality, JHan. brer cat Sep 2017 #123
Shoring up the ACA should be the focus. JHan Sep 2017 #135
Ain't it about time you picked our side on this one? crosinski Sep 2017 #43
I'm all in favor of starting a war in Iraq or Afghanistan but darn there's no funding for it. Nt lostnfound Sep 2017 #47
Good one! JoeOtterbein Sep 2017 #55
Same thing was said about Obamacare. We gotta start Chimichurri Sep 2017 #49
Not surprising. We can do anything and everything. Don't worry about how to pay for it! George II Sep 2017 #51
I saw that to pay for it we would need an eleven percent payroll tax and a nine percent income tax. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #53
Or call it F35 Stealthcare. dogman Sep 2017 #56
Payroll taxes are 15.3%, from the first dollar earned. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #62
Your numbers are off Egnever Sep 2017 #65
I will wait for the CBO Score DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #77
Now you will wait? Egnever Sep 2017 #82
Am I allowed to elaborate ? DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #84
My self-pay premium for my employer based plan while unemployed was $1600+/month. dogman Sep 2017 #85
COBRA insurance is obscenely high. Under my plan you could buy into Medicare. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #96
According to Bernies proposal those numbers are off. Egnever Sep 2017 #61
Or Berniecare might end up costing nothing due to decreased administrative overhead Not Ruth Sep 2017 #78
Some estimates have been as high as 26%. George II Sep 2017 #80
I am going to do the prudent thing and wait for peer reviewed numbers. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #88
Excellent analysis. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #64
But not close to resembling the truth. Egnever Sep 2017 #67
As long as your Medicare is covered, right? n/t QC Sep 2017 #105
What does that have to do with this? George II Sep 2017 #109
I paid into medicare for more than 50 years comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #128
The organized attacks on Bernie and all that he does are interesting. CentralMass Sep 2017 #54
LOL. pangaia Sep 2017 #69
Seriously. I guess criticizing Booker, Harris, Franken and Gillibrand is okay now? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #116
Is there an actual piece of legislation or is it still in the proposal stage? lapucelle Sep 2017 #57
Funny how that got left out, eh? TCJ70 Sep 2017 #71
Hey, it worked for the GOP BayouBengal07 Sep 2017 #68
Your post is BS too INdemo Sep 2017 #72
This Right Here..... LovingA2andMI Sep 2017 #104
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #73
One would also hope that you would show how their savings in health care spending Egnever Sep 2017 #74
in my gut i questioned the whole thinig.. i didnt even listen to samnsara Sep 2017 #75
I am willing to wait for a CBO score or a score from a dispassionate researcher. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #81
LOL. Gee who could have predicted that he'd do for health care what he did for Hillary. ucrdem Sep 2017 #89
You're not alone. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #95
Thank you! ucrdem Sep 2017 #99
Ouch! comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #129
Regardless of the facts of this particular bill. In regards to health care Docreed2003 Sep 2017 #91
Why would there need to be tax increases? Kleveland Sep 2017 #100
"Call them taxes if you wish"- that's what they would nd Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #117
How do all of those first world countries do it? panader0 Sep 2017 #101
Universal coverage and single payer aren't synonymous. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #110
Well Ontario has a 15% Goods and Services tax. MichMan Sep 2017 #130
Yes, please provide a balanced plan relayerbob Sep 2017 #103
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #106
It doesn't look like it's meant to become law BainsBane Sep 2017 #107
You want to see our details?? We don't need no stinkin' details!! ucrdem Sep 2017 #108
typical heaven05 Sep 2017 #121
The issue i have with this, is that today, true health care costs are hidden form taxpayers Calista241 Sep 2017 #124
I'm glad Rep. John Conyers isn't embarrassed by Sen. Sanders in their joint effort. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #125
They have been friends and allies for decades. QC Sep 2017 #133
... Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #134
Thanks for this. This is a great move by Sanders AND Conyers nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #137
Sanders has an extremely poor record of legislative success. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #131
Blah, blah, blah. KPN Sep 2017 #132
it's not the first time Bernie has been lax on details Skittles Sep 2017 #140
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