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In reply to the discussion: The Medicare-For-All Bill does not conflict with defending the ACA. [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)78. I never said they were.
76. OK. And single-payer supporters aren't against fixing the ACA
I never said they were. (Straw man argument.)
It isn't either/or.
It will be. here's a limited number of hours in the day and a limited number of favors that can be called-in when building support and coalitions. This "MFA" thing is going to fail and fail bigly. Meanwhile whatever work and energy is devoted to it is NOT going to be given to the ACA. Enough of this "walk and chew gum" bullshit. The ACA will languish and suffer. It will be left even more vulnerable than it is today. MFA is pie-in-the-sky and won't happen in my lifetime. If we let the ACA be destroyed, then we have nothing, but I guess some folks don't care about that, since it fits very well into their "all or nothing" political philosophy. (Is that your philosophy? All or nothing? No compromise! No incrementalism? No common ground?)
I encourage you to re-read and try to understand what I (and others) have been trying to tell you. It's important to live in the real world and to be realistic. Political grandstanding accomplishes nothing (other than inflating the egos of the politicians who do it) and getting the 2020 hopefuls some free air time.
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The Medicare-For-All Bill does not conflict with defending the ACA. [View all]
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
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in 1760, it was unrealistic to expect British rule of North America ever to end.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#4
Apples and oranges Ken...read up on Hillarycare...if we lose the ACA we will get nothing.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#18
I have seen no bill presented by any Dem that fixes the ACA not have I heard many talk about it.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#42
It isn't being done...so does it really matter? Single payer which we will not get anytime soon is
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#54
It should be done. And it's up to Pelosi and Schumer to get the ball rolling on that.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#71
Just no. Hubby and I pay $1400/mo in premiums. I'd gladly pay that into MFA instead.
Turn CO Blue
Sep 2017
#10
Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#27
There's no question about it at all. They can "simultaneously" do dozens of different things.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#80
Now you're just repeating yourself. We've talked about this before. Please...
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#81
It's not about you. Yet you used "I/my/me" EIGHTEEN TIMES in that short message.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#89
A presence of many of those ideas in the platform proves they weren't rejected
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#90
OK, left out choice there-added it now, thanks-but there's no difference between us on that, either.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#99
Exactly as I described... "an afterthought". Thanks for illustrating my point.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#100
Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#34
No it won't...while many in the GOP support social justice...the moderates anyway...
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#43
You are wrong. Medicare is approved as a retirement thing...those who have workplace
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#57
Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#36
Where can I find information on the bill submitted by Sen. Sanders which improves the ACA...
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#16
Yes, and it's insulting to imply the senators who support this bill won't fight for the ACA.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2017
#8
It's worse than an insult. Dems have been fighting on all fronts and people who suggest they can't
Autumn
Sep 2017
#9
I saw that. We can and should do both. I'm shocked to see Dems who think that we just need to
Autumn
Sep 2017
#22
That is not the point...all this talk about single payer and doing a bill at this time reminds
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#15
Bills should be written to fix the ACA. But those who want us to just fix the ACA
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#75
Right anyone that disagrees with you is not a Democrat...you should read TOS.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#44
Calling someone a Ford Democrat is really calling them a Republican and you know it.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#55
Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Al Franken and the others all know what they are doing.
Autumn
Sep 2017
#59
They all plan to run for president. I don't blame them...but I think it is a foolish thing to do.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#86
It's a feature. If you say "the sky is blue" what you actualy said is "the sky is green and I'm
Autumn
Sep 2017
#58
If it distracts even an ounce of energy required to fight for maintaining the ACA it conflicts.
George II
Sep 2017
#11
You can't be sure of that with the gerrymander...and after 18,we still have Trump...thus
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#46