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5. We have no chance of getting single payer and now we handed the GOP something to attack us with.

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Thu Sep 14, 2017, 06:59 PM

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Maybe I am mistaken, but I believe that, in addition to proposing his Medicare [View all] Atticus Sep 2017 OP

Got a link to this alleged funding proposal? Lee Adama Sep 2017 #1

Try this link: Atticus Sep 2017 #4

So nothing in the bill he put forward. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #10

I see that you make no comment on the actual funding proposals. And, my OP Atticus Sep 2017 #15

In politics, if you are explaining, you are LOSING! Lee Adama Sep 2017 #18

(could you stop yelling?) We disagree, but I will not call you "fucking Dumb". Atticus Sep 2017 #20

I never called you "fucking DUMB". Lee Adama Sep 2017 #21

You seem to have a hard time responding to what was ACTUALLY written. Atticus Sep 2017 #24

OFFS! Lee Adama Sep 2017 #28

Going for single payer at this moment was incredibly stupid. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #7

It could have been brilliant. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #22

Nope. We have no chance at the moment...the GOP are already using it against us with a CBO score Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #44

I agree with everything you said except for one thing. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #55

I don't think it is budget neutral as it calls for tax hikes. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #57

And a comprehensive transition plan that addresses all points of fallout tymorial Sep 2017 #54

Yep, instead it's nothing but a piece of paper with empty rhetoric. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #56

Fox playing up hard bernies 1987 interview Watchfoxheadexplodes Sep 2017 #2

We have no chance of getting single payer and now we handed the GOP something to attack us with. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #5

Yeah, we should just play it safe and hope that we can salvage a few Atticus Sep 2017 #11

We should be realistic, and yeah when the damn Republicans have all power, we should think Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Snotcicles Sep 2017 #64

A big who cares...it is a plan that won't happen and a complete waste of time...work Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #3

We are all entitled to our opinions. nt Atticus Sep 2017 #6

Of course you do...and my only hope is this doesn't cost us any shot at Congress...a CBO Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #46

I wonder how much it would cost Control-Z Sep 2017 #38

That is how it could happen down the road when we are back in power...but if we lose the ACA, it Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #47

That is definitely the way to go...if you try a big stand alone bill like this one Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #59

Looks like it requires a COMPLETE rework and overhaul of the tax system. Pie. In. The. Sky. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #8

So? ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #23

LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #35

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #43

Good. Let's cut out tax theft from the military contractors n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #25

LOL NurseJackie Sep 2017 #36

I stand with Booker, Harris, Warren, Franken, and Gillibrand! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #9

me too Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #12

I wonder what'd happen if he who shall not be named wasn't associated with this particular proposal. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #14

But the Republicans might say something mean!!! QC Sep 2017 #27

its been working well so far. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #40

I stand with winning in 18 and 20...and we all know the Democratic Senators Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #48

Or, maybe they believe in it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #53

Every Senator is running for president...coincidence? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #58

Uh, actually, there are 13 or so co-sponsors. And no one has announced for 2020. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #66

He has proposed "taxes," not how much the average Joe will pay, but "taxes." Hoyt Sep 2017 #13

Thank you for a thoughtful response. Perhaps I am naive, but this proposal is--- Atticus Sep 2017 #16

I hear you. He did have this same basic proposal over a year ago, so it's not that new. Hoyt Sep 2017 #26

The problem is... yallerdawg Sep 2017 #17

It won't cost 3.2T. It will cost less than that. As a nation we will realize substantial savings. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #41

Exactly right, putting this bill forward now is madness. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #49

Pretty sure the senator asked to include the funding proposals: TCJ70 Sep 2017 #19

Oh, here is something that came out today that is getting there. Hoyt Sep 2017 #29

I think those numbers are realistic TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #39

Really, screwing with workplace insurance will get a party tossed out of power and if you are Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #50

That's a good point. At one time, unions were opposed to meddling with an area Hoyt Sep 2017 #60

Barasso Just Wants His Cut OneBlueDotBama Sep 2017 #30

From his primary website TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #31

Thanks for the link and info. We have to be sure this is publicized nationally. Atticus Sep 2017 #32

This pricing is extremely fair IMO Not Ruth Sep 2017 #33

The American people will not support such taxes. And poor people would have to be subsidize for the Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #51

Apparently, Sanders' more recent proposals are bit higher than that. Hoyt Sep 2017 #61

Far too many are "explaining" how it cannot be done. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #34

It's not like this is something new. yallerdawg Sep 2017 #37

Just fixing ACA - it actually can't be fixed. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #42

Yes it can...and such remarks give the GOP joy because he even Democrats say" it can't be fixed..." Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #52

A Public Option is the answer to that. If that is as good as we hope, people will take it Hoyt Sep 2017 #62

To summarize your position as I read it: guillaumeb Sep 2017 #67

We HAVE progress... yallerdawg Sep 2017 #69

We agree. eom guillaumeb Sep 2017 #70

How much of employer savings would go to workers? MichMan Sep 2017 #63

You understand that employees pay premiums, copays, deductibles, and shit insurance didn't pay, Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #68

Another cost savings that is overlooked with Medicare For All is Snotcicles Sep 2017 #65