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86. They all plan to run for president. I don't blame them...but I think it is a foolish thing to do.

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Fri Sep 15, 2017, 09:04 AM

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The Medicare-For-All Bill does not conflict with defending the ACA. [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2017 OP

It distracts. It diverts attention. It confuses. It's... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #1

Thank you for that bit of reality. comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #3

in 1760, it was unrealistic to expect British rule of North America ever to end. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #4

+1000 KTM Sep 2017 #6

+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #7

Apples and oranges Ken...read up on Hillarycare...if we lose the ACA we will get nothing. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #18

And we are all united in fighting to defend the ACA at the moment. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #23

I see Pelosi focusing on ACA. sheshe2 Sep 2017 #33

Is the only way to focus on ACA to give up on anything beyond that? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #68

Apples and apples. tomp Sep 2017 #24

so true mdbl Sep 2017 #30

I have seen no bill presented by any Dem that fixes the ACA not have I heard many talk about it. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #42

Neither have I. Never said I did. tomp Sep 2017 #51

It isn't being done...so does it really matter? Single payer which we will not get anytime soon is Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #54

It should be done. And it's up to Pelosi and Schumer to get the ball rolling on that. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #71

It's not the fault of single-payer advocates that that hasn't happened. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #70

you are a more patient man than i clu Sep 2017 #104

Just no. Hubby and I pay $1400/mo in premiums. I'd gladly pay that into MFA instead. Turn CO Blue Sep 2017 #10

Thank you. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #14

Well, in just 25 or 30 years, maybe MFA will become a reality. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #21

yes there are some high earners clu Sep 2017 #105

Right... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #26

Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #27

Immaterial. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #45

There's no question about it at all. They can "simultaneously" do dozens of different things. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #80

OK. And single-payer supporters aren't against fixing the ACA Ken Burch Sep 2017 #76

I never said they were. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #78

I've always been realistic. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #79

Now you're just repeating yourself. We've talked about this before. Please... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #81

I'm not looking for you to change YOUR answers. Never wanted that. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #82

My responses: NurseJackie Sep 2017 #83

I don't need to surrender, because we're not in a war. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #85

It's not about you. Yet you used "I/my/me" EIGHTEEN TIMES in that short message. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #89

A presence of many of those ideas in the platform proves they weren't rejected Ken Burch Sep 2017 #90

NO ANCHOVIES!! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #91

Nobody's forcing you to have anchovies. Or forcing the party to have them Ken Burch Sep 2017 #92

Ok, so here's the deal... anchovies suck! NurseJackie Sep 2017 #96

It's enought to say that YOU reject the ideas in the those OPs Ken Burch Sep 2017 #97

Think about it. See if you can find any parallels or similarities... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #98

OK, left out choice there-added it now, thanks-but there's no difference between us on that, either. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #99

Exactly as I described... "an afterthought". Thanks for illustrating my point. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #100

What is considered "realistic" changes constantly. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #29

Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #34

Whihc is why, one assumes, that Burch and Senator Sanders guillaumeb Sep 2017 #38

looks like ACA is going, all this attention on other stuff, oops Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #101

It must be nice to have such luxuries of... NurseJackie Sep 2017 #103

No it won't...while many in the GOP support social justice...the moderates anyway... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #43

Framing is essential. As the GOP realizes. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #48

You are wrong. Medicare is approved as a retirement thing...those who have workplace Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #57

You assert that "most people" have workplace insurance. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #61

Nurse, I'm old enough to remember Plucketeer Sep 2017 #32

Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised. NurseJackie Sep 2017 #36

"delivers what's promised" Plucketeer Sep 2017 #60

Yup that point was explicitly made in today's announcement Arazi Sep 2017 #2

Where can I find information on the bill submitted by Sen. Sanders which improves the ACA... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #16

Yes, that point was made. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #49

Some people can walk and chew gum at the same time. Autumn Sep 2017 #5

Yes, and it's insulting to imply the senators who support this bill won't fight for the ACA. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #8

It's worse than an insult. Dems have been fighting on all fronts and people who suggest they can't Autumn Sep 2017 #9

A poster up-thread lost their home because of health care costs. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #19

I saw that. We can and should do both. I'm shocked to see Dems who think that we just need to Autumn Sep 2017 #22

That is the GOP plan, they even admitted it beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #25

That is not the point...all this talk about single payer and doing a bill at this time reminds Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #15

Bills should be written to fix the ACA. But those who want us to just fix the ACA Ken Burch Sep 2017 #75

Not there are groups threatening murielm99 Sep 2017 #13

You are really reaching to get there from what I said. Autumn Sep 2017 #35

Your initial post was quite clear. eom guillaumeb Sep 2017 #41

I read it the first time. murielm99 Sep 2017 #53

Oh by the way, it already has distracted attention from the ACA. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #17

Apparently, we have some Gerald Ford democrats. nt tomp Sep 2017 #28

Right anyone that disagrees with you is not a Democrat...you should read TOS. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #44

You misinterpret. tomp Sep 2017 #50

Calling someone a Ford Democrat is really calling them a Republican and you know it. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #55

Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Al Franken and the others all know what they are doing. Autumn Sep 2017 #59

Those names.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #63

True. Autumn Sep 2017 #64

They all plan to run for president. I don't blame them...but I think it is a foolish thing to do. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #86

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #84

Really. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #87

It's a feature. If you say "the sky is blue" what you actualy said is "the sky is green and I'm Autumn Sep 2017 #58

If it distracts even an ounce of energy required to fight for maintaining the ACA it conflicts. George II Sep 2017 #11

And who set that standard? Apart from you? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #31

Thanks for your courteous response. George II Sep 2017 #37

You are welcome. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #40

Yes it does...and we will be demonized in 2020 Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #12

I completely disagree with your take. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #20

Care to say why? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #66

No, thanks. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #67

Is it just because I was the one who posted the OP? Ken Burch Sep 2017 #69

I choose not to answer that question. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #72

Actually, you just did. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #73

On second thought. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #74

Ken, you have correctly assessed this individual. Note that he's been here Atticus Sep 2017 #102

No, it's to frighten the wingnuts into voting against repeal Warpy Sep 2017 #39

You can't be sure of that with the gerrymander...and after 18,we still have Trump...thus Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #46

Your leaps of illogic are truly astonishing Warpy Sep 2017 #47

That isn't true. We are all equally committed to saving the ACA from repeal. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #93

Oh please. Does it do anything else is the question. ucrdem Sep 2017 #52

It's defenitely not good enough for some -nt Bradical79 Sep 2017 #65

It does a number of other things. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #94

There should be a transition from ACA to single payer. kentuck Sep 2017 #56

I read Bernie's plan would be a 4 year transition. Autumn Sep 2017 #62

I agree. It does not distract or confuse. It is what we stand for. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #77

Honestly I don't care if it does... Joe941 Sep 2017 #88

I completely agree. ZX86 Sep 2017 #95