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cyclonefence

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2. Interesting read
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 11:22 AM
Sep 2017

I confess I was not aware of the details of the Obama guidelines for reporting sexual assault on campus, but as a feminist sort of knee-jerk supported anything to help victims of abuse get justice. But the points made by the law professor about how different and much laxer these regulations are than regs about addressing other criminal acts give me pause. While my heart is still in favor of making things as easy as possible for victims' testimony to be taken seriously no matter what, my head is considering the possibility of false accusations and of consensual sex gone wrong, but then my heart jumps back in and asks what woman would want to put herself through the humiliation of reporting a sexual attack out of spite or regret? Does DeVos cite any other reasons a woman might make a false sexual assault claim?

As in most crimes, the question cui bono is key. I can't imagine reasons a woman might make a false accusation because there is no bono in it for her, but a man denying such an accusation has plenty of bono to gain.

I think sexual assault is a different sort of crime from most others--as are most forms of child abuse--and should be considered in ways that protect the victim in every way possible.

I also believe that by this time men pursuing sexual activity should have learned to get a clear "yes" ahead of time from a sober partner.

BTW the Boston Globe is now also a pay site after you use up your limited number of free viewings, so in future perhaps a summation of the article's main points in addition to the url?

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Can't read it because it is behind a paywall. nt DURHAM D Sep 2017 #1
I think I'm allowed to quote 2 paras, right? LAS14 Sep 2017 #4
Interesting read cyclonefence Sep 2017 #2
she could be mistaken dsc Sep 2017 #3
Yes, but cyclonefence Sep 2017 #6
Could you explain more fully? LAS14 Sep 2017 #5
I am not equating women with children cyclonefence Sep 2017 #7
OK, then let's work really hard to insure that victim's accusations... LAS14 Sep 2017 #9
I understand what you're saying cyclonefence Sep 2017 #10
This kind of reasoning would make me crazy if I were... LAS14 Sep 2017 #8
That line of reasoning makes you crazy? Why? kcr Sep 2017 #14
It would make me crazy to think that in the case of rape... LAS14 Sep 2017 #19
You're confusing me with someone else. I didn't say anything about "no bono", whatever that means. kcr Sep 2017 #23
Cyclone fence used the phrase cui bono... who benefits, and... LAS14 Sep 2017 #24
Bumping after an unwanted hiatus. nt LAS14 Sep 2017 #11
I am not boasting about getting out of jury duty, understand that from the get go.... usedtobedemgurl Sep 2017 #12
I don't disagree that their is a history... LAS14 Sep 2017 #16
No one is saying we should put rapists in jail without a trial.... usedtobedemgurl Sep 2017 #22
I hold an opinion less popular than Title IX advocates OR Betsy Devoss Nevernose Sep 2017 #13
Thanks for articulating another angle that... LAS14 Sep 2017 #15
I can't read the article so I don't know what their criteria is for calling these lawyers feminist kcr Sep 2017 #17
I added 2 more paras and a comment of my own. nt LAS14 Sep 2017 #20
Four paragraphs. nt tblue37 Sep 2017 #18
Thanks. I added 2 more paras and a comment of my own. nt LAS14 Sep 2017 #21
Not all about legal zipplewrath Sep 2017 #25
Thanks. Thoughtful and intelligent. nt LAS14 Sep 2017 #27
This is very empowering to this feminist get the red out Sep 2017 #26
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