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14. Things have changed
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:47 PM
Sep 2017

We've been down here for 29 years now, and have spouse and I have both recently retired. We have both put down strong roots in this state, have contributed well in our working years, and have degrees from Florida universities, Go Gators.
We're among those seriously thinking about leaving Florida now.
Things have changed a great deal since we arrived here to live in the late 80's.
Politically, the state has turned into a republican hell hole - helped mightily by scores of retired civil servants from the NE who fled Long Island and other places after fleeing from Brooklyn and any other place that they saw a person of color in. These fools joined the ignorants already here in turning the state red, perhaps indelibly. There's still a good number of locals and others that remember and miss the days when the Governor and a good part of the Tallahassee House was Dem, but we're in the minority now I fear.
Weather-wise, things have also changed for the worse. We see it everyday, all year long. The vaunted state crop - citrus - has been virtually decimated by disease, storms, and over-development. Lake Okeechobee has become a giant cesspool thanks to the mismanagement of Florida's natural waterways. They spill out the toxic contents to the east and west these days, thereby polluting the Caloosahatchee River to the west and the once pristine St. Lucie estuary to the east. A fix will take decades and besides, we can't disrupt the sugar industry who now owns the lands blocking the flow to the Everglades, once the natural filter. To the north of the great Lake, toxic runoff from over-development in the Orlando watershed flows into the Lake. It's a small world after all.
Meanwhile, offshore in the Gulf and Atlantic Ocean, the water regularly goes to 90F in the summers now providing rocket fuel to the bowling balls coming off the African coast. After a lull for the last decade, the storms are back and only increasing in intensity and regularity.
Our homes, for the most part, are built for storms. But retirees, like myself, have a time with boarding up, shuttering up, and moving everything off the open areas of our homes, and then waiting the storm out in a state of ultra high anxiety. The aftermath can be just as trying with power outages, food and fuel shortages, and generally a big mess to clean up - not to mention the $20K deductable for "wind damage" that many of us carry on the non-insurance policies.
The winters are still blissful, with low humidity (relatively), and comfortable temps. We even break out a jacket now and again.
But the time has come to assess whether the winters are worth all of the summertime blues. It's not the heat - I'm used to that, even play golf in it (the rates are much lower in the summer . It's everything else. Things have changed.
We're looking into other pastures and I suspect our Florida adventure will soon come to an end.




Some retirees are rethinking Florida after Irma [View all] yortsed snacilbuper Sep 2017 OP
8 elderly allowed to boil to death in that hot nursing home would certainly turn me off to Florida. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #1
That was entirely the fault of for profit health care GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #13
Well, you're wrong. :) Nothing's ever that simple. Hortensis Sep 2017 #49
Do you know how many calls FPL is getting right now? GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #53
Owner of this little chain is a physician, Hortensis Sep 2017 #54
I think we are pretty much on the same page GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #60
You too. I think in the end it will come down to human frailty. Hortensis Sep 2017 #72
I would think evacuating across the street to the hospital air conditioned lobby would MLAA Sep 2017 #77
Quite an image there. :) Seems someone should have called the hospital Hortensis Sep 2017 #80
Precisely. Ligyron Sep 2017 #83
So the staff just said "Oh well, they aren't coming, B2G Sep 2017 #68
I live in Florida and Phoenix61 Sep 2017 #2
I live in North Central Florida and it is bearable, I will never return to katmondoo Sep 2017 #3
I grew up in G'ville Phoenix61 Sep 2017 #4
don't a lot of them go back home during the summer and fly back when it gets cold? pstokely Sep 2017 #73
My money is on this "rethinking" lasting until about November...nt ExciteBike66 Sep 2017 #5
Exactly, storms haven't impeded retirees moving there before. Hoyt Sep 2017 #76
Half backs underpants Sep 2017 #6
That makes a lot of sense. Lee Adama Sep 2017 #26
Yup. Lindsay Sep 2017 #29
"retired to FLA but moved half way back to the Carolinas" left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #58
I visited Florida once in the summer, many years ago. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #7
I put Macon, Georgia in August and Houston most any time for breathing water in the air. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #22
Hilton Head was beautiful but suffocating when we visited. spooky3 Sep 2017 #40
I've been to FL 3 times in my life crazycatlady Sep 2017 #24
I live in Minnesota. I don't want to live any farther south. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #25
I'm looking for a colder climate crazycatlady Sep 2017 #27
It got to 80 today here, 87 yesterday - a bit warm for September The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #30
I see you live in MN. Could you be more specific? Nt raccoon Sep 2017 #57
The People's Republic of Minneapolis. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #63
I lived in FL for 15 yrs janterry Sep 2017 #51
As someone once said, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #78
exactly what i posted. I was there in Dec and OMG!!! samnsara Sep 2017 #62
Hell, I'm 37 and I'm rethinking Florida. Dr Hobbitstein Sep 2017 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #81
They did in 2004, too, and produced a minor real estate crash Warpy Sep 2017 #9
if people say "it ain't the heat, it the humidity" DonCoquixote Sep 2017 #10
Funny - the air in Las Vegas is so dry it made me completely miserable the one time I was there. LisaM Sep 2017 #28
I feel the same way JonLP24 Sep 2017 #33
Las Vegas summers are beyond unbearable Awsi Dooger Sep 2017 #37
Lol..... dixiegrrrrl Sep 2017 #32
Oh, please, please, please rethink coming here! FLPanhandle Sep 2017 #11
agreed obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #16
not only that onethatcares Sep 2017 #20
... Scurrilous Sep 2017 #45
thinking the same thing . . . don't want to visit? cool . . . .don't want to move here? . . . fine DrDan Sep 2017 #59
We do get rather hot and humid GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #12
Exactly. Here in CA, the thick adobe walls of the old Spanish homes kept interiors cool. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #17
I agree with you about designing for this - I was in New Orleans in June a few years ago... LisaM Sep 2017 #31
Things have changed Loge23 Sep 2017 #14
Yes, it's a vicious cycle, with more righties moving to FL. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #18
I love California. spooky3 Sep 2017 #42
Me too! SunSeeker Sep 2017 #44
Much cheaper to live in northern CA CountAllVotes Sep 2017 #55
Yes, but a little too cold & rainy in the winters for my taste. Love the greenery though. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #67
Yes it is cold & foggy where I live CountAllVotes Sep 2017 #69
Glad it has worked out for you. SunSeeker Sep 2017 #70
It is redwood here CountAllVotes Sep 2017 #71
Good! Make traffic better and car insurance lower obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #15
If I'm ever able to retire and can afford to relocate, I know where I'm going. Ace Rothstein Sep 2017 #19
A neighbor is trying to sell their property in Merida flamingdem Sep 2017 #46
I can't imagine ever wanting to leave my beloved Evergreen State, Aristus Sep 2017 #21
Give me four seasons, summer, fall, winter, spring...each beautiful in its own right. haveahart Sep 2017 #23
Yes! I live in Seattle, but miss the Michigan weather. LisaM Sep 2017 #34
UP Mendocino Sep 2017 #82
Won't ever get me down there. lindysalsagal Sep 2017 #35
Good...I grew up in the Carolinas and I've been in Fl for 25 years.... Sancho Sep 2017 #36
+1, n/t RKP5637 Sep 2017 #38
Come to Virginia spooky3 Sep 2017 #39
Low cost of living? Lucinda Sep 2017 #41
My parents are moving back. gollygee Sep 2017 #43
I am enjoying the low cost of living in North Florida madville Sep 2017 #47
What county are you in? GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #65
Yeah - wait until the winter. They will be rethinking. kerry-is-my-prez Sep 2017 #48
I'm With You ProfessorGAC Sep 2017 #50
My cousin moved to The Villages in Florida recently CountAllVotes Sep 2017 #52
We lived in Naples for 10 years HockeyMom Sep 2017 #56
i have visited florida in the winter and how in the hell... samnsara Sep 2017 #61
I grew up in the deep south GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #66
Subtropical summers are weird LeftInTX Sep 2017 #74
I have cousins who moved to Bradenton in May. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2017 #64
Can we get them to rethink coming to the coast of South Carolina too? bluepen Sep 2017 #75
Personally, I have never understood the horror of winter so many people have. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #79
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