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LisaM

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13. Seems to me you're discussing issues, not personality, but okay.
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:03 PM
Sep 2017

I, of course, do not imbue Hillary with all of Bill's characteristics, nor do I blame her for his legislative actions, but that aside, back in 1992, Bill Clinton was my next-to-last choice of all the primary candidates (the one below him was Tsongas).

At one of the debates, however, I realized that Bill Clinton was a funny and likeable person. Jerry Brown, in his humorless way, inserted his 800 number ("we take $5 donations and you can call....."..) and the moderator made some mild objection, and Bill Clinton burst out laughing and said, "oh, we all know Jerry's 800 number". In fact, he almost seemed disposed to give it out himself.

I think if I ever spent any time with Bill Clinton, I'd enjoy it. He likes other people and he's smart and funny. I remember seeing him sit down with Roger Ebert once and talk about movies for a full hour and his breadth of knowledge was amazing.

I like people who, themselves, like other people and can talk on a variety of subjects.

And, an endearing image I have of Bill Clinton is that, after 9/11, he rushed to New York and went out on the street to comfort people. He looked stricken.

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K&R for a terrific post! eleny Sep 2017 #1
It floors me that people find her unlikeable. LisaM Sep 2017 #2
thirty years of incessant hate-mongering by the reichwing media & deplorables makes niyad Sep 2017 #3
and this proves what? mountain grammy Sep 2017 #4
To me, it proves that she is the more likable person, that's all. LisaM Sep 2017 #5
That only men can get away with that shit? bettyellen Sep 2017 #7
Now THAT I'll agree with! mountain grammy Sep 2017 #8
Just imagine a world where men couldn't "be authentic" for the reason in the OP- it's impossible! bettyellen Sep 2017 #9
When it comes to sexism or racism, it's completely beyond unfair. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #14
If she'd done it, it would be in an ad or an endless sound bite... LisaM Sep 2017 #11
Yup. That's it lunamagica Sep 2017 #15
Some people have charisma... Baconator Sep 2017 #18
But people find different things charismatic. LisaM Sep 2017 #19
Everyone appeals to some portion of the population (1 person to 100s of millions)... Baconator Sep 2017 #20
I saw her speak and she was great. LisaM Sep 2017 #22
Hillary got a higher percentage of votes than bill in both of his JI7 Sep 2017 #33
True... Baconator Sep 2017 #35
Doesn't change the fact of what people found appealing JI7 Sep 2017 #36
I doubt we'll agree... Baconator Sep 2017 #37
Hillary got close to same number of votes Obama did in 2012 JI7 Sep 2017 #38
I don't think anyone denies that those things had some effect... Baconator Sep 2017 #39
And he beat Rubio Jeb Kasich and a bunch of other republicans JI7 Sep 2017 #40
... and was still wildly unpopular. Baconator Sep 2017 #41
Yeah. He still beat them and was propped up by Putin and shit media JI7 Sep 2017 #42
We're just talking in circles at this point... Baconator Sep 2017 #43
Those things matter since they play a huge part JI7 Sep 2017 #44
You all seem worried about the dent in the door panel... Baconator Sep 2017 #45
'You all ' JI7 Sep 2017 #46
and yet, those who have not been listening to 30 years of hateful reichwing attacks niyad Sep 2017 #47
That's just silly... Baconator Sep 2017 #61
truth hurts? niyad Sep 2017 #62
A textbook example of why 2016 was a disaster... Baconator Sep 2017 #63
don't like her, never did never will...never much cared for her husband either dembotoz Sep 2017 #6
Leaving her HUSBAND out of it.... LisaM Sep 2017 #10
can not leave bill out of it because that is part of it dembotoz Sep 2017 #12
Seems to me you're discussing issues, not personality, but okay. LisaM Sep 2017 #13
That is not really the point of the article treestar Sep 2017 #30
This post is exceeding the limit of 4 paragraphs (DU rule) FakeNoose Sep 2017 #16
except that I have permission from the author to quote in full. thanks. niyad Sep 2017 #48
K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #17
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Sep 2017 #21
Every time anyone, left, right, or center, brought up her likability as an election issue, Aristus Sep 2017 #23
precisely!! niyad Sep 2017 #49
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #24
I really like Hillary but this essay underscores her authenticity proble Arazi Sep 2017 #25
The higher level a woman reaches, the less she is trusted or liked. bettyellen Sep 2017 #26
And if those women run for President treestar Sep 2017 #31
She would have been a great. Snackshack Sep 2017 #27
and exactly WHY is that??? oh, yes, 30 years of relentless attacks by thei niyad Sep 2017 #50
My critique is that she's too moderate! The article says the opposite. lindysalsagal Sep 2017 #28
Some things are just there even if unexplainable Awsi Dooger Sep 2017 #29
K&R treestar Sep 2017 #32
the whole thing of being a "crone" mopinko Sep 2017 #34
from one crone to another, greetings! niyad Sep 2017 #51
ikr? mopinko Sep 2017 #58
and the average sexist male is terrified of that power!! niyad Sep 2017 #59
that's why they were hanged in salem. mopinko Sep 2017 #64
years ago, I read that many of the women murdered in the Burning Times either had niyad Sep 2017 #65
do you know this one? niyad Sep 2017 #66
and this trilogy from starhawk: Goddess Remembered, Burning Times, and Full Circle niyad Sep 2017 #67
. . . niyad Sep 2017 #52
As Obama once said, HRC's "likeable enough" aikoaiko Sep 2017 #53
Good stuff. Orsino Sep 2017 #54
so very true niyad Sep 2017 #55
i identify with her..thats very important for me with a candidate... samnsara Sep 2017 #56
so very true niyad Sep 2017 #57
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #60
I was always confused by the likable question mercuryblues Sep 2017 #68
you are absolutely correct. niyad Sep 2017 #69
K&R Jamaal510 Sep 2017 #70
. . . niyad Sep 2017 #71
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