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Willie Pep

(841 posts) Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:42 PM Sep 2017

Question about Hillary Clinton and the white working class [View all]

If I remember correctly Hillary Clinton was actually pretty popular with white working-class voters back in 2008 during the primary against Obama to the point where she was strongly identified with this demographic group. Fast forward to 2016 and this is apparently no longer true.

What explains such a large change? I am not sure if racism and sexism can explain the shift because many of these people were enthusiastic about Clinton (a woman) in the 2008 primary then voted for Obama (a black man) in the general election.

I wonder how Clinton went from being a popular figure with WWC voters in 2008 to being so unpopular in 2016. Any thoughts?

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Question about Hillary Clinton and the white working class [View all] Willie Pep Sep 2017 OP

repuke / Russia propaganda Skittles Sep 2017 #1

She was so unpopular that she won the popular vote. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #2

I am thinking of voters in areas like the Rust Belt. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #4

She lost in the rust belt by razor thin margins. some people thought those states were "safe" emulatorloo Sep 2017 #6

Yes. And she probably won those swing states .. ananda Sep 2017 #11

A white woman is preferable to a black man. ImpeachTheGOP Sep 2017 #3

election results indicate a white OR black man is better than a white woman nt msongs Sep 2017 #5

Only when you weight those votes. When you look at the actual numbers Ninsianna Sep 2017 #7

Highly paid speeches to Wall Street banks. jalan48 Sep 2017 #8

But a "billionaire" with a fondness for bankruptcies and cheating hard working Americans was better? LonePirate Sep 2017 #10

You have any exit polling/post-election analysis to back that up? emulatorloo Sep 2017 #12

But ATTACKING Hillary as the poster did is easier Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #15

It's my opinion-if you can find data showing working people liked it let me know. jalan48 Sep 2017 #16

Oh you 'felt' that way, even though you don't have a damn thing to back it up. emulatorloo Sep 2017 #18

Let's run someone again who has made a lot of money giving speeches to Wall Street jalan48 Sep 2017 #20

Let's have you prove your original assertion before you try to distract with hypotheticals emulatorloo Sep 2017 #22

A question was asked and I gave my opinion. jalan48 Sep 2017 #24

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #26

Adios. jalan48 Sep 2017 #30

If you can find data that supports your claim... lapucelle Sep 2017 #41

Nah Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #14

But Deplorables admire Trump for his sharp business sense. oasis Sep 2017 #19

Plus 35 years in the power bubble BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #21

Exactly jalan48 Sep 2017 #23

+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #25

Trump campaigned by saying he still kick out brown people. White people who voted for him JI7 Sep 2017 #37

That gets my vote! FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #27

Sometimes the obvious is the hardest to see.... jalan48 Sep 2017 #29

Where in her platform did she give banks an ease? JHan Sep 2017 #32

point out where the fuck in her platform she was giving banks an ease... JHan Sep 2017 #31

Nothing. That's why those same people voted for pro wallstreet republicans JI7 Sep 2017 #35

You know in all the bullshit rationalisations ... JHan Sep 2017 #39

Just look at how the one thing that angers them of everything trump has done JI7 Sep 2017 #40

Nope . Those same white people voted for pro wall street republicans JI7 Sep 2017 #34

Gee, where have we heard this ridiculous shit before? MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #43

Her GE opponent constantly insulted her. A subset of her PE opponent's base constantly insulted her. LonePirate Sep 2017 #9

In 2008, you're talking about relative popularity amongst the motivated DEMOCRATIC electorate 11cents Sep 2017 #13

You do, you wonder? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #17

HRC was popular among the WWC in 2008 and she was also popular with them when she was Secretary of StevieM Sep 2017 #28

She was running against a black man. JI7 Sep 2017 #33

Why did so many west virginia democrsts vote for a prison inmate over Obama JI7 Sep 2017 #36

I wish people would stop making excuses for whites that voted for a bigot JI7 Sep 2017 #38

Yes I do have some thoughts. lunasun Sep 2017 #42

Obama steadily turned off white working class voters and Hillary inherited the plummet Awsi Dooger Sep 2017 #44