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BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
21. Plus 35 years in the power bubble
Fri Sep 15, 2017, 05:40 PM
Sep 2017

David Remnick has a good take on her tone deafness and how Trump (of all people) was able to benefit in the most recent New Yorker:

Time and investigation will tell whether Donald Trump or his surrogates colluded in any foreign interference in the election; what is entirely clear is that he was, with his penchant for exploiting an enemy’s weakness, eager to add weight to the heavy baggage that Clinton, after thirty-five years in public life, carried into the campaign. Trump, who lives in gilded penthouses and palaces, who flies in planes and helicopters emblazoned with his name, who does business with mobsters, campaigned in 2016 by saying that he spoke for the working man, that he alone heard them and felt their anger, and by branding Hillary Clinton an “élitist,” out of touch with her country. The irony is as easy as it is enormous, and yet Clinton made it possible.She practically kicked off her campaign by telling Diane Sawyer that the reason she and her husband cashed in on the lecture circuit on such an epic scale was that, when they left the White House, in 2001, they were “dead broke.” As earnestly as she has worked on behalf of women, the disadvantaged, and many other constituencies, Clinton does not, for many people, radiate a sense of empathy. A resident of a bubble of power since her days in the Arkansas governor’s mansion, she makes it hard even for many supporters to imagine that her feet ever touch the ground. In “What Happened,” she describes how, when considering whether to run again in 2016, she had to consider all her negatives—“Clinton fatigue,” the dynastic question, her age, the accumulated distrust between her and the press—and then says that she completed the deliberative process by going to stay with Oscar and Annette de la Renta at Casa de Campo, their retreat in the Dominican Republic. “We swam, we ate good food, and thought about the future. By the time we got back, I was ready to run.” This is perhaps not a universally relatable anecdote. Nor did she see much wrong with giving twenty-odd million dollars’ worth of speeches, including to Goldman Sachs and other financial institutions, conceding only that it was, in hindsight, bad “optics.” (“I didn’t think many Americans would believe that I’d sell a lifetime of principle and advocacy for any price,” she writes. “That’s on me.”)

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/25/hillary-clinton-looks-back-in-anger


repuke / Russia propaganda Skittles Sep 2017 #1
She was so unpopular that she won the popular vote. MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #2
I am thinking of voters in areas like the Rust Belt. Willie Pep Sep 2017 #4
She lost in the rust belt by razor thin margins. some people thought those states were "safe" emulatorloo Sep 2017 #6
Yes. And she probably won those swing states .. ananda Sep 2017 #11
A white woman is preferable to a black man. ImpeachTheGOP Sep 2017 #3
election results indicate a white OR black man is better than a white woman nt msongs Sep 2017 #5
Only when you weight those votes. When you look at the actual numbers Ninsianna Sep 2017 #7
Highly paid speeches to Wall Street banks. jalan48 Sep 2017 #8
But a "billionaire" with a fondness for bankruptcies and cheating hard working Americans was better? LonePirate Sep 2017 #10
You have any exit polling/post-election analysis to back that up? emulatorloo Sep 2017 #12
But ATTACKING Hillary as the poster did is easier Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #15
It's my opinion-if you can find data showing working people liked it let me know. jalan48 Sep 2017 #16
Oh you 'felt' that way, even though you don't have a damn thing to back it up. emulatorloo Sep 2017 #18
Let's run someone again who has made a lot of money giving speeches to Wall Street jalan48 Sep 2017 #20
Let's have you prove your original assertion before you try to distract with hypotheticals emulatorloo Sep 2017 #22
A question was asked and I gave my opinion. jalan48 Sep 2017 #24
Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #26
Adios. jalan48 Sep 2017 #30
If you can find data that supports your claim... lapucelle Sep 2017 #41
Nah Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #14
But Deplorables admire Trump for his sharp business sense. oasis Sep 2017 #19
Plus 35 years in the power bubble BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #21
Exactly jalan48 Sep 2017 #23
+1 leftstreet Sep 2017 #25
Trump campaigned by saying he still kick out brown people. White people who voted for him JI7 Sep 2017 #37
That gets my vote! FiveGoodMen Sep 2017 #27
Sometimes the obvious is the hardest to see.... jalan48 Sep 2017 #29
Where in her platform did she give banks an ease? JHan Sep 2017 #32
point out where the fuck in her platform she was giving banks an ease... JHan Sep 2017 #31
Nothing. That's why those same people voted for pro wallstreet republicans JI7 Sep 2017 #35
You know in all the bullshit rationalisations ... JHan Sep 2017 #39
Just look at how the one thing that angers them of everything trump has done JI7 Sep 2017 #40
Nope . Those same white people voted for pro wall street republicans JI7 Sep 2017 #34
Gee, where have we heard this ridiculous shit before? MrsCoffee Sep 2017 #43
Her GE opponent constantly insulted her. A subset of her PE opponent's base constantly insulted her. LonePirate Sep 2017 #9
In 2008, you're talking about relative popularity amongst the motivated DEMOCRATIC electorate 11cents Sep 2017 #13
You do, you wonder? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #17
HRC was popular among the WWC in 2008 and she was also popular with them when she was Secretary of StevieM Sep 2017 #28
She was running against a black man. JI7 Sep 2017 #33
Why did so many west virginia democrsts vote for a prison inmate over Obama JI7 Sep 2017 #36
I wish people would stop making excuses for whites that voted for a bigot JI7 Sep 2017 #38
Yes I do have some thoughts. lunasun Sep 2017 #42
Obama steadily turned off white working class voters and Hillary inherited the plummet Awsi Dooger Sep 2017 #44
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