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In reply to the discussion: The Medicare-For-All Bill does not conflict with defending the ACA. [View all]NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)96. Ok, so here's the deal... anchovies suck!
92. nobody's forcing you to have anchovies.
So stop offering them.
It's not as if posting things forcibly imposes them on the party or onto you.
Well, it's not as if my continually refuting them and reminding you that they've been rejected by millions and millions of voters "imposes" anything on you, either. (Well, maybe, other than imposing the facts on you.) I'm just saying: the numbers speak for themselves. The results speak for themselves. The historical facts speak for themselves.
Discussion is simply discussion.
Wow man, that's deep. Profound. Intense man, super-intense. Mind blown. I'm going to get that engraved on a plaque, dude.
And it's not as though you have to read every post of everyone you disagree with. You have the option of not reading them.
It's not as though you have to take every reply of disagreement so personally. You have the option of responding in a more adult way when someone "shoots-down" outdated and unrealistic ideas.
And no one needed to give you permission,
Duh! Of course. Wasn't my cheeky sarcasm obvious enough to you? If not, I'll spell it out for you. I-don't-need-your-permission.
because you've never been at a disadvantage to anyone else on this board and you've never had to fight to make yourself heard here or anything.
Neither have you. ("Or anything" huh?) There isn't a power relationship between us...
LOL! Relationship? I wouldn't use that word at all.
we are simply two equal human beings
Equal? Then why try to bully me off the board by making veiled innuendos and false accusations about me being a crazy stalker. Is that how you treat someone who you consider to be "equal"? (I think not.) Your previous behavior and lack of respect toward me are in complete contrast to those words.
expressing somewhat different opinions.
That's an understatement. No, views are not "somewhat" different. They are VERY different. EXCEEDINGLY different. MONUMENTALLY different.
And the fact that you don't like ideas doesn't mean you are entitled to declare them rejected.
I've claimed no such entitlement. I have made no such declaration. (Straw man argument.) I am, however, simply reminding you that the voters rejected them in the same way that the originator rejected the Democratic party.
Many years ago, I had a boyfriend who rejected me. We flirted and dated for a brief period, but eventually he decided once and for all that didn't want to be a couple. He wanted to be able to do his own thing and live an independent life without me.
Yet, for some reason, he still felt obligated to tell me how to run my life. He wanted to tell me where I should live, how I should dress, who my friends should be. He criticized my job and ridiculed my family. He accused me of being dumb. He told me I was ugly, a tramp, and worthless. He insulted and denigrated me. He treated me like dirt. He didn't want to be with me, but still he wanted to CONTROL me and control my life. He had the nerve to tell me it was for my own good and that he knew best what I needed. He felt ENTITLED to it.
But, you know what? I wouldn't accept things like that back then (all those many years ago) and I won't accept it now. Do you get my meaning? Does any of that make sense to you?
You are just one poster here. You are not the Voice of DU.
I never claimed to be. (Straw man argument.)
You are simply one poster among many.
I never claimed differently. (Straw man argument.)
And we agree much more than not on the issues. There's no massive divergence here.
Nice try.
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The Medicare-For-All Bill does not conflict with defending the ACA. [View all]
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
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in 1760, it was unrealistic to expect British rule of North America ever to end.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#4
Apples and oranges Ken...read up on Hillarycare...if we lose the ACA we will get nothing.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#18
I have seen no bill presented by any Dem that fixes the ACA not have I heard many talk about it.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#42
It isn't being done...so does it really matter? Single payer which we will not get anytime soon is
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#54
It should be done. And it's up to Pelosi and Schumer to get the ball rolling on that.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#71
Just no. Hubby and I pay $1400/mo in premiums. I'd gladly pay that into MFA instead.
Turn CO Blue
Sep 2017
#10
Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#27
There's no question about it at all. They can "simultaneously" do dozens of different things.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#80
Now you're just repeating yourself. We've talked about this before. Please...
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#81
It's not about you. Yet you used "I/my/me" EIGHTEEN TIMES in that short message.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#89
A presence of many of those ideas in the platform proves they weren't rejected
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#90
OK, left out choice there-added it now, thanks-but there's no difference between us on that, either.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#99
Exactly as I described... "an afterthought". Thanks for illustrating my point.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#100
Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#34
No it won't...while many in the GOP support social justice...the moderates anyway...
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#43
You are wrong. Medicare is approved as a retirement thing...those who have workplace
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#57
Single-payer gets closer to reality with an ACA that functions well and delivers what's promised.
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#36
Where can I find information on the bill submitted by Sen. Sanders which improves the ACA...
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#16
Yes, and it's insulting to imply the senators who support this bill won't fight for the ACA.
beam me up scottie
Sep 2017
#8
It's worse than an insult. Dems have been fighting on all fronts and people who suggest they can't
Autumn
Sep 2017
#9
I saw that. We can and should do both. I'm shocked to see Dems who think that we just need to
Autumn
Sep 2017
#22
That is not the point...all this talk about single payer and doing a bill at this time reminds
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#15
Bills should be written to fix the ACA. But those who want us to just fix the ACA
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#75
Right anyone that disagrees with you is not a Democrat...you should read TOS.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#44
Calling someone a Ford Democrat is really calling them a Republican and you know it.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#55
Kamala Harris, Cory Booker and Al Franken and the others all know what they are doing.
Autumn
Sep 2017
#59
They all plan to run for president. I don't blame them...but I think it is a foolish thing to do.
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#86
It's a feature. If you say "the sky is blue" what you actualy said is "the sky is green and I'm
Autumn
Sep 2017
#58
If it distracts even an ounce of energy required to fight for maintaining the ACA it conflicts.
George II
Sep 2017
#11
You can't be sure of that with the gerrymander...and after 18,we still have Trump...thus
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#46