Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Ms. Toad

(38,664 posts)

8. Seriously?

Reply to lindysalsagal (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 02:40 AM

Sep 2017

Forcing a child to speak, even through expressive actions - such as refusing to stand for the pledge of allegiance, is blatant violation of the first amendment to the constitution.

This is not a matter of parents disagreeing - people have spent time in jail fighting for the right to speak, or to decline to speak.

Good for the child and his parents, and shame on anyone who believes sacrificing the right of free speech for the sake of avoiding putting teachers in an uncomfortable position is appropriate.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

22 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Teacher on leave after boy is forced to stand during Pledge [View all] sarisataka Sep 2017 OP

'that's not supposed to happen.' elleng Sep 2017 #1

Ok, but some schools would punish teachers if the kids sat through it. Maybe most schools. lindysalsagal Sep 2017 #2

How many schools sarisataka Sep 2017 #4

Communities use schools to indoctrinate. Parents insist. Teachers are lindysalsagal Sep 2017 #5

Teachers can't do illegal things because they feel pressured by "communities" or administration. pnwmom Sep 2017 #7

As a former teacher I would get written up if I even touched a kid. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #9

Can you point to any example sarisataka Sep 2017 #15

Seriously? Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #8

No. I'm pretty sure you're wrong left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #12

most schools? no way . . . can you cite an example? DrDan Sep 2017 #13

When I was in school they there was a Jehovah's witness that was allowed to sit out the pledge JonLP24 Sep 2017 #17

No n/t kcr Sep 2017 #19

Ok what schools are those? Ones where jehovah witnesses etc are banned? There are religions lunasun Sep 2017 #21

I have never liked standing for the anthem, pennylane100 Sep 2017 #3

I wouldn't have a problem calling her "gracious." She is one of the nicer ones Warpy Sep 2017 #10

Well she may seem nice, pennylane100 Sep 2017 #20

And there's the verse about crushing the Scots. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #11

I can only remember the first two verses. pennylane100 Sep 2017 #18

There are several long standing religions who do not pledge to any less than God. Midnight Writer Sep 2017 #6

Good. I hope that teacher learns a lesson from this. MineralMan Sep 2017 #14

There's no freedom if you are forced to it. maveric Sep 2017 #16

Good! lesson learned teacher but that school seems to have multiple people in need lunasun Sep 2017 #22