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mopinko

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34. the whole thing of being a "crone"

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 12:06 PM

Sep 2017

such a deep seated thing in humans.
i am the very definition of a crone, and often describe the bs around my farm as- i am stuck in a disney movie.
just dare to be an old woman w property, w some money, and look out. you will make enemies. people who never even met you will hate you.

i always understood the box that hillary was in. in another time, she would have been drowned to see if she was a witch.

sigh. we have such a long way to go.

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the LIKABILITY of Hillary Clinton (considering some of the crap we are hearing these days) [View all] niyad Sep 2017 OP

K&R for a terrific post! eleny Sep 2017 #1

It floors me that people find her unlikeable. LisaM Sep 2017 #2

thirty years of incessant hate-mongering by the reichwing media & deplorables makes niyad Sep 2017 #3

and this proves what? mountain grammy Sep 2017 #4

To me, it proves that she is the more likable person, that's all. LisaM Sep 2017 #5

That only men can get away with that shit? bettyellen Sep 2017 #7

Now THAT I'll agree with! mountain grammy Sep 2017 #8

Just imagine a world where men couldn't "be authentic" for the reason in the OP- it's impossible! bettyellen Sep 2017 #9

When it comes to sexism or racism, it's completely beyond unfair. mountain grammy Sep 2017 #14

If she'd done it, it would be in an ad or an endless sound bite... LisaM Sep 2017 #11

Yup. That's it lunamagica Sep 2017 #15

Some people have charisma... Baconator Sep 2017 #18

But people find different things charismatic. LisaM Sep 2017 #19

Everyone appeals to some portion of the population (1 person to 100s of millions)... Baconator Sep 2017 #20

I saw her speak and she was great. LisaM Sep 2017 #22

Hillary got a higher percentage of votes than bill in both of his JI7 Sep 2017 #33

True... Baconator Sep 2017 #35

Doesn't change the fact of what people found appealing JI7 Sep 2017 #36

I doubt we'll agree... Baconator Sep 2017 #37

Hillary got close to same number of votes Obama did in 2012 JI7 Sep 2017 #38

I don't think anyone denies that those things had some effect... Baconator Sep 2017 #39

And he beat Rubio Jeb Kasich and a bunch of other republicans JI7 Sep 2017 #40

... and was still wildly unpopular. Baconator Sep 2017 #41

Yeah. He still beat them and was propped up by Putin and shit media JI7 Sep 2017 #42

We're just talking in circles at this point... Baconator Sep 2017 #43

Those things matter since they play a huge part JI7 Sep 2017 #44

You all seem worried about the dent in the door panel... Baconator Sep 2017 #45

'You all ' JI7 Sep 2017 #46

and yet, those who have not been listening to 30 years of hateful reichwing attacks niyad Sep 2017 #47

That's just silly... Baconator Sep 2017 #61

truth hurts? niyad Sep 2017 #62

A textbook example of why 2016 was a disaster... Baconator Sep 2017 #63

don't like her, never did never will...never much cared for her husband either dembotoz Sep 2017 #6

Leaving her HUSBAND out of it.... LisaM Sep 2017 #10

can not leave bill out of it because that is part of it dembotoz Sep 2017 #12

Seems to me you're discussing issues, not personality, but okay. LisaM Sep 2017 #13

That is not really the point of the article treestar Sep 2017 #30

This post is exceeding the limit of 4 paragraphs (DU rule) FakeNoose Sep 2017 #16

except that I have permission from the author to quote in full. thanks. niyad Sep 2017 #48

K&R smirkymonkey Sep 2017 #17

K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Sep 2017 #21

Every time anyone, left, right, or center, brought up her likability as an election issue, Aristus Sep 2017 #23

precisely!! niyad Sep 2017 #49

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #24

I really like Hillary but this essay underscores her authenticity proble Arazi Sep 2017 #25

The higher level a woman reaches, the less she is trusted or liked. bettyellen Sep 2017 #26

And if those women run for President treestar Sep 2017 #31

She would have been a great. Snackshack Sep 2017 #27

and exactly WHY is that??? oh, yes, 30 years of relentless attacks by thei niyad Sep 2017 #50

My critique is that she's too moderate! The article says the opposite. lindysalsagal Sep 2017 #28

Some things are just there even if unexplainable Awsi Dooger Sep 2017 #29

K&R treestar Sep 2017 #32

the whole thing of being a "crone" mopinko Sep 2017 #34

from one crone to another, greetings! niyad Sep 2017 #51

ikr? mopinko Sep 2017 #58

and the average sexist male is terrified of that power!! niyad Sep 2017 #59

that's why they were hanged in salem. mopinko Sep 2017 #64

years ago, I read that many of the women murdered in the Burning Times either had niyad Sep 2017 #65

do you know this one? niyad Sep 2017 #66

and this trilogy from starhawk: Goddess Remembered, Burning Times, and Full Circle niyad Sep 2017 #67

. . . niyad Sep 2017 #52

As Obama once said, HRC's "likeable enough" aikoaiko Sep 2017 #53

Good stuff. Orsino Sep 2017 #54

so very true niyad Sep 2017 #55

i identify with her..thats very important for me with a candidate... samnsara Sep 2017 #56

so very true niyad Sep 2017 #57

K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #60

I was always confused by the likable question mercuryblues Sep 2017 #68

you are absolutely correct. niyad Sep 2017 #69

K&R Jamaal510 Sep 2017 #70

. . . niyad Sep 2017 #71