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17. Many Criticized Obama For Not Pushing For More &....

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 10:37 PM

Sep 2017

settling for less when he was negotiating ACA. Many thought that he caved and gave up ground and that he should have been a more forceful negotiator.

Shooting for a Medicare For All (MFA) program now may not be the best timing. However, with MFA as the starting point it then seems more reasonable in negotiations for the other side to agree instead with improvements to ACA as a good compromise.

Once we have an improved ACA it can be used for the springboard to a MFA plan.

As much as I'd like to go straight to Bernie's plan I would think we'd need to take back the House & Senate in 2018 and then the Presidency in 2020.

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Is it insulting Bernie when we require him to fight for ACA instead of pushing progressive dreams ? [View all] factfinder_77 Sep 2017 OP

Why don't you ignore him and support pelosi and other dems who are JI7 Sep 2017 #1

Are you serious...you think saving the ACA ...the only healthcare millions Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #4

Millions of lives are at stake no progressive should even have to be asked. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #2

It's insulting to ask this question, that I can tell you. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #3

Why do you require from Bernie what you aren't requiring from others like Autumn Sep 2017 #5

Why can't we do both? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #6

No shit. The premise is absurd. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2017 #9

I don't understand CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #10

The either/or of the post was ridiculous. We can do both as you suggest. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2017 #13

Jeeze, just that you even had to state the obvious is freaky. pangaia Sep 2017 #14

It's like we can't both breathe and sleep or something CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #16

Something is awry here, that's for sure. pangaia Sep 2017 #18

it is a hugely stupid talking point. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #26

EXACTLY !! kacekwl Sep 2017 #28

When you present a plan for replacing the ACA...then you are saying it should be replaced... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #29

Ok I'll bite. You're flat out wrong. CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #34

He is. So are all of the co-sponsors. It was explicitly stated during Medicare for All's rollout Arazi Sep 2017 #7

It's not the only one. pangaia Sep 2017 #15

But they still rolled out their owe replacement for the ACA...can you not see why this is not Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #30

100% disagree. It's exactly what's needed right now Arazi Sep 2017 #35

Do you realize he worked hard to get the ACA passed and even wrote some great addendums mucifer Sep 2017 #8

But still a replacement bull was offered which in my opinion makes it more likely the GOP will Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #31

Just a push poll. pangaia Sep 2017 #11

No. We all have "progressive dreams" but incrementally UTUSN Sep 2017 #12

Many Criticized Obama For Not Pushing For More &.... global1 Sep 2017 #17

False dichotomy Cirque du So-What Sep 2017 #19

I don't believe I have the ability to require Bernie to do anything fescuerescue Sep 2017 #20

No, not at all lunamagica Sep 2017 #21

I reject the absurd push poll. mythology Sep 2017 #22

We get it. Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2017 #23

Kamala Harris jumped on it flamingdem Sep 2017 #24

Or Kamala, Ed, Cory, Kirsten, Elizabeth... (n/t) SMC22307 Sep 2017 #25

No it's insulting to all Democrats GaryCnf Sep 2017 #27

Saying you support single payer eventually is not the samething as putting out a bill to replace the Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #32

Don't put any energy into it right now, then. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #38

"Say what you want" GaryCnf Sep 2017 #39

Disagreeing with policy is not a vendetta. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #33

Nice push poll, dude. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #36

I'll Pass G_j Sep 2017 #37