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In reply to the discussion: Post from a friend on Facebook. Worth the read. [View all]RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)6. I have a MAJOR problem with this
The whole thing is quite good and I mostly agree.
The big problem I have is with this sentence, and I would ask you to share my concern with your friend and for everyone here at DU (and everyone everywhere, actually) to stop thinking it's true (aside from the stupid Electoral College):
But there was no way that an America that has shaped its identity around rejecting her was ever going to allow her to lead it.
First, SHE WON! She effing WON!
Second, yes, there was massive sexism and it cost her votes. BUT there were other problems that prevented the full win she'd have had that had nothing to do with sexism:
Hillary didn't lose because she was less POPULAR. She lost because of James Comey's letters and because of some even more important factors -- more important because they're not going away. They will be used against us in every election going forward, unless we can stop them.
The big problems are voter suppression, Russian meddling, and targeted voter propaganda through Twitter, Google, Facebook, and other forms of social media. There is no question that the Trump campaign, through Cambridge Analytica, did this -- and that the Russians did this. The only question is how much they conspired together in the propaganda campaign.
We need to figure out how to defend the democratic process from fake news and micro-targeted AI propaganda -- or lose our democracy. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029576691
The big problems are voter suppression, Russian meddling, and targeted voter propaganda through Twitter, Google, Facebook, and other forms of social media. There is no question that the Trump campaign, through Cambridge Analytica, did this -- and that the Russians did this. The only question is how much they conspired together in the propaganda campaign.
We need to figure out how to defend the democratic process from fake news and micro-targeted AI propaganda -- or lose our democracy. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029576691
And this:
Here is how they stole the election, well this and KGB operatives V Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/
My intention isn't to diminish the terrible scourge sexism still is -- but we will NEVER fix the problems that actually caused her "loss" (70,000 highly targeted votes in 3 key states) if we distract ourselves with the wrong "causes."
Yes, sexism was a factor, a big one. No, it wasn't THE determining reason for her loss.
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I wish Hillary would, now that she's no longer a candidate, follow FDR's example
Glorfindel
Sep 2017
#2
But let me ask you this: if it were Joe Biden or Marco Rubio who was cheated out of
Squinch
Sep 2017
#26
You felt strongly enough to comment on why you "thought it wasn't worth the dime."
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#38
Um, first of all, this was not written by the OP. Secondly the person who did
smirkymonkey
Sep 2017
#10
The Deep Lack of Respect for Women in America is, Unfortunately, Part of our Cultural DNA
dlk
Sep 2017
#15
It really is impressive that she had the race won--decisively--before Comey intervened to rig it.
StevieM
Sep 2017
#24