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In reply to the discussion: Fact: Sanders has been in the Senate nine years and has sponsored only one bill that pass. [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)associated with his campaign, and only run on the ideas we'd have had in the platform had his campaign never happened.
What we'd have had without that were mildly progressive things that didn't ask anything of the wealthy-they and were and are worth being part of what we need to be about in the future, but they were never going to be enough to elect us by themselves. Therefore, we can't win solely on those ideas.
The only way forward is to treat the ideas of both campaigns as being of equal esteem and equal legitimacy within the party. The ideas are separate from the persons and there's no reason to feel any actual hostility to the ideas themselves.
Hillary, in her anti-Sanders passage in the book, admitted that the ideas themselves were valid and should be part of what we are about.
We can't win if we make this a party where the ideas of the 2016 Clinton campaign are legitimate and the ideas of the Sanders campaign(ideas that seem to be supported by most Dems now, at least on economics)are not.
What is so terrible about the actual ideas? A lot of people who preferred Hillary actually supported the economic ideas.
And it's absurd to argue that post-1981 capitalism is more anti-oppression than social democracy. Post-1981 capitalism, after what Reagan did to it in removing all humane values from it, can't defend reproductive choice or fight racism, sexism and anti-LGBTQ prejudice. The only things that can fight that are outside the realm of private profit.