Another benefit from single payer government run health care I don't see

[Lee-Lee]

24. A number of problems with your theory

First, virtually every plan I've seen includes a payroll tax to pay for it, so the money the employer pays for premiums now just gets paid to someone else.

Second, if you tried to do it only based on taxes on income and not a payroll tax it's still a hit. I'm assuming you are doing corporate income as well as individual so there is where that money goes. And even if you only hits raise taxes on individual income you still hit small businesses, who employs a huge chunk of our workers, hard. If that busiess owner saved $40,000 in insurance premiums but sees her individual taxes go up $30,000 she is just going to take that savings as profit to offset her increased tax burden.

There isn't any free lunch- the supply of money is the same so when it's getting spent on X it isn't there to spend other places. You may change the source but it's still the same amount of money leaving the system to pay for it (and then back into the overall system).

We just can't be afraid to just tell people, individual, corporations, that their tax rates are going to go up to pay for this and just just how it's going to be becuse it's the right thing to do.