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ehrnst

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17. No, I'm not wrong.

Reply to m-lekktor (Reply #15)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:38 AM

Sep 2017

What is wrong is confusing "Medicare for All" with "Universal Health Coverage" which is what is being done now, when it's only one of many ways to get to Universal Health Care coverage.

I think it's far more progressive to advocate for Universal Health Care coverage to be implemented in the most realistic and quick way possible, according to those who are experts in the field, over that which is proposed by those running for higher office.

Which is not M4A.

That has become dogma, as your post indicates. That sort of thinking is at fault behind the GOP dogma that closing Planned Parenthood will stop abortions and save money. It seems simple, but reality indicates otherwise. It does give voters something to rally behind, especially if you get people demonizing PP as corrupt.

Families USA is a progressive org, and this is a very good overview of the situation:

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/9/8/16271888/health-care-single-payer-aca-democratic-agenda

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Hillary Clintons coal gaffe is a microcosm of her twisted treatment by the media [View all] ehrnst Sep 2017 OP

I like Hillary janterry Sep 2017 #1

So it's her fault for not anticipating this? ehrnst Sep 2017 #3

well, she said it was her mistake janterry Sep 2017 #5

Ah, thanks for the clarification ehrnst Sep 2017 #21

I don't think we should back away from that. Volaris Sep 2017 #2

Coal plants are the #1 cause of global warming... why wouldn't we want to put them out of business? InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #6

Yep I had someone use that line in response to me here last week or so. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #4

Anyone who would have that quote at their fingertips to criticize Hillary Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #8

There are people who require "hope" and something to "rally around" even if it's a false hope. ehrnst Sep 2017 #13

you are wrong to imply "medicare for all" is a false hope. m-lekktor Sep 2017 #15

No, I'm not wrong. ehrnst Sep 2017 #17

We need a war on coal for the sake of the planet. Her only mistake here was not going far enough. LonePirate Sep 2017 #7

But we've seen how people want to be told and will believe that there's an easy fix to any problem. ehrnst Sep 2017 #18

It's the same as "you didn't build that." nolabear Sep 2017 #9

The media has kept up with their false reporting since the book came out. They make it sound StevieM Sep 2017 #10

To the coal miners, the context doesn't matter at all. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #11

Looking back, maybe she should have just said, "Reversing the TPP will bring your jobs back." ehrnst Sep 2017 #14

There's that and then there is just not saying that line. aikoaiko Sep 2017 #19

Yes, when she does speak from the heart, and the head, she's castigated. ehrnst Sep 2017 #20

Every fucking thing she said or says is ripped apart ismnotwasm Sep 2017 #12

100% that. oasis Sep 2017 #16