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George II

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127. Thanks for the video, it puts it all into perspective. With all due respect.....

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:28 PM

Sep 2017

....(I hate it when someone says that to me, it usually means I'm about to be slammed! But I'm not going to do so. The last time someone said that to me, face to face, he said "with all due respect you're full of shit"!)

Anyway, with all due respect, you may want to change the subject line of your OP.

"Sen. Gillibrand said Bernie when she was asked who was the leader of the Democratic Party"

That's not entirely correct, in response to the question she said, "I think you have your Congressional leaders, of course, Senator Sanders is out there talking about Medicare for all, you have Elizabeth Warren.....and for each of us who are running for reelection such as myself and 24 other Senate Democrats...."

So, first he wasn't the first mentioned as you said earlier today, she mentioned the Congressional leaders and then pretty much mentioned half the Democratic Senate caucus. She included Sanders in a group of dozens of others.

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Sen. Gillibrand said Bernie when she was asked who was the leader of the Democratic Party [View all] berni_mccoy Sep 2017 OP

Funny thing is that it will probably be Sen. Gillibrand soon Renew Deal Sep 2017 #1

Maybe berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #3

Maybe so ... KPN Sep 2017 #48

im just not feeling that....maybe if youre a bernie supporter, but really.. samnsara Sep 2017 #2

he's not a Democrat, you say? ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #7

Trust me, there are plenty of us who are aware of his non-party status. Paladin Sep 2017 #8

apologies if you were attempting to get the sarcasm ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #11

Everyone should give a shit! beastie boy Sep 2017 #15

No Democrats are bound by the Democratic Party platform, either. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2017 #20

Will you accept "governed" instead of "bound"? beastie boy Sep 2017 #25

Semantics as to whether they govern "the party" or "the party members"... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #39

How can a party be governed by certain principles and the party members not? beastie boy Sep 2017 #115

Answering your question... thesquanderer Sep 2017 #123

Point well taken. Still... beastie boy Sep 2017 #136

So Debbie Wasserman Schultz now supports a "pathway to future legalization" on cannabis, then? Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #148

Apparently she does! beastie boy Sep 2017 #149

Uh, correcting her prior votes to send sick people to prison for using medical marijuana Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #150

Don't take it as me defending DWS in any way, beastie boy Sep 2017 #152

gradually getting the memo Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #157

It's like calling Roger Goodell the leader of Major League Baseball. George II Sep 2017 #24

Good one MLAA Sep 2017 #100

Bernie and his supporters helped create the current platform. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #36

+1 mountain grammy Sep 2017 #38

Good for Bernie! But he appears to be governed only by the parts of the Platform he helped create. beastie boy Sep 2017 #43

Governed by only the parts he helped create? How so? KPN Sep 2017 #59

There were lots of issues he recommended literally "setting aside" ... funny how people forget that bettyellen Sep 2017 #89

+1 KPN Sep 2017 #57

What are the specific items in the platform he helped create that did not exist prior to his involve LanternWaste Sep 2017 #90

We put single payer BACK on the platform. It would not have been had it not been for us. PatrickforO Sep 2017 #114

Huh? KPN Sep 2017 #56

Please refer to Reply #25 beastie boy Sep 2017 #117

Let me reply that he has done nothing to make my life better. lunamagica Sep 2017 #94

I've been told he is not even American,, bahrbearian Sep 2017 #16

Well He Did Honeymoon In Russia Me. Sep 2017 #58

People give a shit that he's trying to determine Democratic party policy ehrnst Sep 2017 #17

Hey, I'm a registered Democrat for the past 45 years ... and I guess by this standard KPN Sep 2017 #60

In his roughly 30 years in Congress and the Senate, what specifically has he done.... George II Sep 2017 #23

Good question! This should be interesting... nt R B Garr Sep 2017 #40

Google it. KPN Sep 2017 #65

No thanks. Not going on a wild goose chase. George II Sep 2017 #79

We can also google how to create an operational deathstar. LanternWaste Sep 2017 #91

Is He? Me. Sep 2017 #41

Funny, but DarleenMB Sep 2017 #44

did you know that only one person can have an idea about healthcare at a time? ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #64

Photo: Donkees Sep 2017 #67

LOL aidbo Sep 2017 #71

... beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #139

WOW, a 1993 picture of a Democrat who fought for health care for all Americans! R B Garr Sep 2017 #76

Well played! Nice picture of the former first lady and Bernie. beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #138

Standing right behind her. KPN Sep 2017 #70

Exactly! KPN Sep 2017 #55

You are never going to win this argument. pangaia Sep 2017 #19

Listen, theres Dems snort Sep 2017 #30

keep flogging that distinction without a difference ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #61

His choice not to call himself a Dem, not sure why anyone calls him one. He's distanced himself for bettyellen Sep 2017 #87

As I said in an earlier post, Bernie is more of a Democrat than many of the Democrats. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #92

Is she running for president? Dem leaders must be Democrats. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #137

maybe he'll join the party now! JHan Sep 2017 #4

I think if he did join that the haters would still hate. Ligyron Sep 2017 #9

THAT is an interesting observation. pangaia Sep 2017 #21

He'll join right back up on when he wants to run for POTUS in 2020 ehrnst Sep 2017 #22

I could see them requiring Sanders to formally join before supporting him. Ligyron Sep 2017 #26

The party would be castigated for requiring Dem nominees to ehrnst Sep 2017 #51

Yep +++++ JHan Sep 2017 #35

I Think If The Party Me. Sep 2017 #42

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #52

Wow, that's interesting that Nader's main concern is Bernie being asked if he's R B Garr Sep 2017 #47

the longer he takes, the more irritated they will be I think. JHan Sep 2017 #34

You know, when people walk around in a 24-7 perpetual state of maximum irritation Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #143

Cause and effect Warren, cause and effect. JHan Sep 2017 #155

Naw, I'm not concerned. Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #159

lol. okay. JHan Sep 2017 #162

It would depend why he did it Orrex Sep 2017 #50

Sanders has a valuable mail list, Warren not so much. delisen Sep 2017 #69

What exactly did she say? You say two things there without context. George II Sep 2017 #5

Yes, it was a direct question to her. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #6

So you're saying that she was asked "who is the leader of the Democratic Party?", and she answered.. George II Sep 2017 #31

Yes. She went into his platform ideas and what he's doing on Healthcare. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #88

Sorry, I'd have to see the video of that one. George II Sep 2017 #95

It's fair. I understand the mistrust berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #98

Updated. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #111

lol. stonecutter357 Sep 2017 #10

Too bad he has never been a Democrat and never will be. PubliusEnigma Sep 2017 #12

people who keep bringing up this supposedly divisive point ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #62

What's even more fascinating is people pretending that being R B Garr Sep 2017 #72

and Sanders generated a ton of interest in the Democratic party ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #78

Wait, where is the win part?? R B Garr Sep 2017 #83

Bernie Sanders won the 2016 Presidential primary in New Hampshire. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #93

So no win, then. But a lot of people got to feel good, so there's that. R B Garr Sep 2017 #110

He did have a win, the presidential primary in NH. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #116

So, no win. If the only standard is that he won your home state, then he R B Garr Sep 2017 #131

Actually, he had 22 wins, as he won the primaries in 22 states. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #140

So, no win. I love how the goalposts are always moved, but none of them R B Garr Sep 2017 #141

It depends on what you call a win. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #153

So, no win. We all saw who advanced to the Presidential campaign. I don't R B Garr Sep 2017 #156

You were wrong, you said Bernie Sanders didn't have a win, and that is flat out wrong. Bluepinky Sep 2017 #160

Reality is reality, so no need to go over the facts we all saw play out over 2 years. R B Garr Sep 2017 #161

He has the highest approval rating maybe IronLionZion Sep 2017 #13

Pelosi is getting work done. That is leadership. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #18

This should be a fun thread riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #14

not really. I think many will spend a little less time here every day grantcart Sep 2017 #46

I agree caraher Sep 2017 #53

It already is! KPN Sep 2017 #73

He can have it leftofcool Sep 2017 #27

A real populist would run well against the #FakePopulist in the White House bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #28

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #29

How long will we have a 2 party system? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #33

Depends on how 2018 and 2020 go. KPN Sep 2017 #75

He is definitely the leader of the Independents Not Ruth Sep 2017 #32

The progessive independents, not the rest of them SharonClark Sep 2017 #37

One might think that as a white male, he could gather the rest with more ease Not Ruth Sep 2017 #49

bernie is not a democrat. and fortunately the minority doesn't get the last word. Lil Missy Sep 2017 #45

WHAT? He's not a Democrat!????111111 ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #66

Why should I consider someone leftynyc Sep 2017 #54

this post helps Russia ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #63

... LexVegas Sep 2017 #68

Yawwwwwnnnnnnn leftynyc Sep 2017 #85

You should ask... tonedevil Sep 2017 #97

I already have leftynyc Sep 2017 #103

What did she... tonedevil Sep 2017 #104

Sent an email leftynyc Sep 2017 #106

I'm interested... tonedevil Sep 2017 #108

I don't hate Gillibrand leftynyc Sep 2017 #118

the argument could be made that the Democratic party used Sanders, as well ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #99

Bullshit leftynyc Sep 2017 #105

I respectfully disagree ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #109

Spare me the drama leftynyc Sep 2017 #120

this post helps Russia ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #122

How many times are leftynyc Sep 2017 #124

how many times are people going to post things that help Russia? ProfessorPlum Sep 2017 #125

He votes and caucuses with the Democratic party so yes they use and benefit from him. Autumn Sep 2017 #121

Where's the clip or quote? BainsBane Sep 2017 #74

I've asked a couple of times about what she specifically was asked and her answer. George II Sep 2017 #80

Very little on Twitter about it as well BannonsLiver Sep 2017 #81

I'll post an update once one is available. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #86

Gillibrand is right. KPN Sep 2017 #77

What you do before running for the Presidency Bad Thoughts Sep 2017 #82

Swoon... Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #84

B Sanders has a mailing list and mailing lists delisen Sep 2017 #96

I have to suspect some selective hearing. Orsino Sep 2017 #101

I'm sorry. I am unable to find video or transcript. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #102

What were her exact words? Pugster Sep 2017 #107

Updated to include video. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #112

OK but she doesn't speak for me. haveahart Sep 2017 #113

I like Gillibrand. ananda Sep 2017 #119

Thanks for posting the video! beam me up scottie Sep 2017 #126

Thanks for the video, it puts it all into perspective. With all due respect..... George II Sep 2017 #127

We'll have to disagree. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #130

Actually much of what he's getting credit for in the platform was already in it.... George II Sep 2017 #132

That's another debate entirely and for the sake of moving forward berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #134

I guess the debate is about what she actually said, she didn't single out Sanders in her comments... George II Sep 2017 #135

Round and round we go, this is why this shit never ends. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #142

You don't agree that your subject line is misleading? George II Sep 2017 #144

I stand by what I posted. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #145

Then I'll echo your statement "Round and round we go, this is why this shit never ends." George II Sep 2017 #146

Thank you. The OP makes it sound like a definitive statement. SaschaHM Sep 2017 #133

"I think that's how they're percieved.... but you won't really have a national leader Democrat until SaschaHM Sep 2017 #128

He runs the whole show and isn't even a party member? Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #129

I BET SHE LIKES SUSAN SARANDON MOVIES TOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #147

It's a little early in the afternoon, but rules are rules. tonedevil Sep 2017 #151

Lol berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #154

L'Chiam! Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #158

I like her. I think she is one of the ones who could unite the party mvd Sep 2017 #163