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Hortensis

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27. It's far cheaper and very good, but don't forget to add on medication, dental, eye,

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:45 PM

Sep 2017

and other needs that Medicare A and B (a really necessary but voluntary supplement that recipients have to purchase), for instance, do not cover. And don't even think of Part A alone if you're not well to do but do have assets, like a home, to protect from illness-induced destitution. Medicare's great as far as it goes, but that's the route to spending one's last years in an SRO (single-room occupancy).

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Single payer is only two thirds as expensive as the private insurance industry [View all] applegrove Sep 2017 OP

Health care in the US isn't about money (Or even about treating people), it's about social control ck4829 Sep 2017 #1

We have "revolutions" every 4 or 8 years or so in hundreds of governments, Hortensis Sep 2017 #20

The wealthiest want the additional 1/3 cost in their pocket AND democratisphere Sep 2017 #2

And what does it matter? The single payer bill will not pass...and I doubt it Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #3

I think I will add the word "single" to words I block here! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #9

Merci! Paka Sep 2017 #11

I get that...I just don't want millions to lose health care and the ACA be repealed... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #12

Yep, that was predictable. UGH! Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #13

seriously? That would be the weirdest campaign ever. I'll believe it when I see it. nt JCanete Sep 2017 #18

You're making some inaccurate assumptions. Most workplaces don't subsidize very much Turn CO Blue Sep 2017 #16

It's not necessarily better in your 20s or 30s. white_wolf Sep 2017 #29

Between my employer and myself, the cost of my insurance is $18k/yr for a family of three VMA131Marine Sep 2017 #28

So doctors, nurses and phama is going to see a 25% revenue cut Le Gaucher Sep 2017 #4

No. There will be more people going to get health care more often. applegrove Sep 2017 #5

Unless the case is made that staff required to do billing and other admin Le Gaucher Sep 2017 #6

Part of the savings is in preventive medicine. People don't get so sick. applegrove Sep 2017 #7

Who is going to provide that preventative care? brer cat Sep 2017 #14

why do you assume the Medicare reimbursement rate will remain the same for everyone as it is now? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #17

The OP stated that single payer would be 2/3 brer cat Sep 2017 #21

I'm talking about working 20, 30 and 40 year olds with current for profit insurance. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #24

2/3 per person covered. More people covered for what the US pays applegrove Sep 2017 #26

And if Medicare reimbursement goes significantly down, so will salaries. Look at relative salaries pnwmom Sep 2017 #23

Very, very qualified people get turned down for medical school in Canada every year. applegrove Sep 2017 #25

Doctors already have full days. We will have to train more doctors, and that will raise costs. pnwmom Sep 2017 #22

So what happens to those same doctors if we "fix" the ACA and actually cover everyone? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #30

Uh, no. The ACA already reduced overhead to no more than 20% and single payer should lower overhead pnwmom Sep 2017 #31

If you believe that BS about 20% I have a bridge to sell you Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #32

+1 n/t area51 Sep 2017 #34

Juvenile taunts and sarcasm won't sell your position. brer cat Sep 2017 #33

Yes theres clearly a huge problem some have with the single payer proposal in the senate Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #36

Everything is about risk bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #8

It reminds me of driving in traffic. dogman Sep 2017 #10

But but but freedom or something JCMach1 Sep 2017 #15

That is why They don't want us to have it. Orsino Sep 2017 #19

It's far cheaper and very good, but don't forget to add on medication, dental, eye, Hortensis Sep 2017 #27

But I was told I dont understand math- because I dont see why giving for profit insurance companies Warren DeMontague Sep 2017 #35