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TexasProgresive

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26. I disagree. As someone who has worked in electronics all my life
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:00 PM
Sep 2017

R&D, product development, maintenance and repair I know just how fragile these kind of systems are. No I don't have experience with self-driving vehicles but the sensors, computers, stepper motors and servos necessary are all the same. NASA, the military and many utility companies have systems with auto back up. That means that there are at least 2 complete systems each working simultaneously to do the necessary job when one fails. Because failure will happen.

Aircraft have auto-pilots but they always have pilots. They have ILS (instrument landing systems) but they still require a pilot, and in fact they probably land with VFR (visual flight rules) which means manually.

It was reported in 2014 that there were 253 million cars and trucks on U.S. roads. Consider my 2. I have a 2015 Subaru Forester and a 1994 F-150 pickup that I use for feed, hay and to haul garbage. Both are payed for and to replace them would be prohibitively expensive at today's prices for non-autonomous vehicles. Add the expense of self-driving technology and most people would be priced out.

Perhaps I am wrong but I see great hardship on people who have modest means.



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Or a POTUS that has actually been in the front seat of a car ksoze Sep 2017 #1
self driving cars are a pipe dream edhopper Sep 2017 #2
Not for the elderly or the disabled, it isn't silly! WinkyDink Sep 2017 #4
It's worse than silly loyalsister Sep 2017 #31
+10000000000001 Blecht Sep 2017 #6
This is a silly comment JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #10
I think you are pretty close on your time-frame. Maybe a bit longer. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #21
Anyone living in a major city JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #24
Nice to support companies who go into cities openly breaking the law? LisaM Sep 2017 #35
You realize that autonomous vehicles and car-sharing have nothing to do with each other? brooklynite Sep 2017 #33
Of course they are related JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #44
Why would I not buy my own autonomous vehicle? brooklynite Sep 2017 #46
Like fixing and upgrading our existing public transportation system Willie Pep Sep 2017 #22
High-speed rail would be nice too. Japan and Europe have had them since the 20th century. brush Sep 2017 #42
I'd be a-skeered! But the idea is particularly enticing for people who for one WinkyDink Sep 2017 #3
As a cyclist that's a nightmare scenario. TexasProgresive Sep 2017 #5
Depends on the programming. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2017 #7
A google research on autonomous vehicles is suggesting that bicycles have transponders. TexasProgresive Sep 2017 #16
Vehicle tracking can be a good thing and/or bad JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2017 #41
all will be safer without human drivers JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #12
I disagree. As someone who has worked in electronics all my life TexasProgresive Sep 2017 #26
I live suburban and ride only on sidewalks if i can help it. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #18
In a lot of places it's illegal to ride on a sidewalk. nt Codeine Sep 2017 #25
Not in Ohio. Sidewalks AND roads are OK for bikes. Just obey respective pedestiran or vehicle laws. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #48
It is not safe for pedestrians for me to ride at my modest speeds on a sidewalk. TexasProgresive Sep 2017 #28
I lived in inner city cleveland at one point. Rode on sidewalks because it was FASTER than cars. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #49
The infrastructure needs to change. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #23
Considering there are little or no autonomous vehicles on the road TexasProgresive Sep 2017 #30
You just made my point. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #32
If the people developing the technology tell me I need a transponder on my bike to be safe TexasProgresive Sep 2017 #34
Many people have a transponder ready device. Your cell phone. moda253 Sep 2017 #37
I'm not really fighting it since at 68 I don't thing I will live to see it. TexasProgresive Sep 2017 #38
I think autonomous cars will ultimately succeed, but... Girard442 Sep 2017 #8
Well, it was the number one issue of the 2016 election, after all. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2017 #9
LOL. Haven't seen him around in a while. Trouble in the prediction business? FSogol Sep 2017 #13
On Tuesday he predicted Manafort being charged Codeine Sep 2017 #27
Manafort killed Vince Foster? Case closed! FSogol Sep 2017 #29
I won't trust that technology for a long time. Too much can go wrong, especially with hacking. phleshdef Sep 2017 #11
I wish we had a POTUS Hekate Sep 2017 #14
This. nt. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #20
Would settle for POTUS able to keep the power grid up and to safeguard our food and water supplies. Orsino Sep 2017 #15
They tend to only work very well on roads with lines - which much of america DOESN'T have. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #17
I think overall they are doing well with it. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #19
What is the rush for self-driving cars? LisaM Sep 2017 #36
Lots of reasons metalbot Sep 2017 #40
But there have been deaths from self-driving cars! LisaM Sep 2017 #43
Horses and buggies were nice too. JenniferJuniper Sep 2017 #45
No.... LisaM Sep 2017 #47
A couple of points metalbot Sep 2017 #50
Deaths? Codeine Sep 2017 #51
Why? GeorgeGist Sep 2017 #39
I would settle for a POTUS with a brain. RainCaster Sep 2017 #52
Yes indeed, so would I SonofDonald Sep 2017 #53
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