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82. I understand that, but that is something free college and universal healthcare could help to

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Fri Sep 22, 2017, 04:52 AM

Sep 2017

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Sanders will increase total fedreal taxes with 25 % to pay for his health plan and free college. [View all] factfinder_77 Sep 2017 OP

Why in the hell isn't McCaskils (sp) idea being floated more? Single payer for pre existing ... uponit7771 Sep 2017 #1

I think her idea is brilliant. The far left hates her. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #23

So who pays? exboyfil Sep 2017 #66

From the people with the PEC but it'll be affordable vs getting shafted like they would with private uponit7771 Sep 2017 #67

OMG how will the military buy aircraft carriers? leftstreet Sep 2017 #2

The taxes covering that remain the same. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #5

The point is that it will never happen. Anyone that thinks taxes like that are coming is delusional. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #24

How much of that rise in taxes is countered by........ socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #3

Here you go HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #6

Another masterstroke by Bernie... gotta love his tenacity and leadership! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #37

There is zero chance an $844 annual premium for 4 people can fund a good healthcare program. nt stevenleser Sep 2017 #53

$844 is not funding it, the taxes on the 1% are Not Ruth Sep 2017 #56

Look at Tricare alarimer Sep 2017 #59

Music to my ears Not Ruth Sep 2017 #55

Bingo. Scruffy1 Sep 2017 #91

Sounds good to me HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #4

All sorts of things are actually possible. G_j Sep 2017 #7

voodoo math on this one taught_me_patience Sep 2017 #8

Yeah HarmonyRockets Sep 2017 #9

Or perhaps to show you the reality we face...best to save the ACA, next a public option then Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #25

The "Everyone Gets a Pony" tax. 6000eliot Sep 2017 #10

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #13

I mean that this is a ridiculous pipe dream at a time when millions are threatened with the loss of 6000eliot Sep 2017 #15

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2017 #18

You are definitely wrong. I've always believed that Medicare for All was the way 6000eliot Sep 2017 #22

It has nothing to do with Sen. Sanders. It just won't happen and millions will lose coverage. There Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #26

"Everyone gets a pony" sounds like passing out luxuries for free. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2017 #16

And these things are going to happen now, in the current political atmosphere, how, exactly? 6000eliot Sep 2017 #17

Single payer won't happen... until 20 at least and I don't think even then. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #27

Can I keep my 12 ponies and give 4 away snooper2 Sep 2017 #34

If you like your pony, you can keep your pony jberryhill Sep 2017 #51

Ryan and McConnell agree that health care and education are ponies. Orsino Sep 2017 #46

For comparison (Germany) Ezior Sep 2017 #11

Germany also has a 19% VAT nm MichMan Sep 2017 #19

It would be nice if that were the same for everyone in Germany DFW Sep 2017 #69

90% taxes seems excessive Not Ruth Sep 2017 #77

That was my impression as well. DFW Sep 2017 #79

Let's go back to the Make America Great Again tax rates of the 1950's. jalan48 Sep 2017 #12

You have to consider what is possible...50 style taxes will not happen. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #28

It was a joke-Trump wants to go back the past and I say let's go back to the tax rate back then. jalan48 Sep 2017 #33

I wish we could go back to those times where everyone had deductions ...not just the rich Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #38

No problem-we can do almost anything we want-WE are the government. jalan48 Sep 2017 #40

Sadly, we do not have enough who feel this way. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #41

Can we have just one day without attacks on Bernie Sanders? left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #14

I am more annoyed with the attacks on medicare for all m-lekktor Sep 2017 #21

At this point Nevernose Sep 2017 #30

Ridiculous...there is no point in even discussing Medicare for all at this moment as Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #39

"which the GOP will demonize" melman Sep 2017 #47

I want to know how "NO WE CAN'T!" is going to drive people to vote CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #75

thank you. Joe941 Sep 2017 #57

Sounds great to me. roamer65 Sep 2017 #20

Yeah and if we proposed half the stuff suggested here we would lose every election in the forseeable Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #29

Like we've been overwhelmingly successful running on status quo.n/t Scruffy1 Sep 2017 #92

Likewise here! CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #32

Every state has the right to levy its own version of GST already, and most do. DFW Sep 2017 #80

This is Republican scare mongering CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #31

No. He is doing it wrong KWR65 Sep 2017 #35

Forbes? melman Sep 2017 #36

Forbes is almost as horrid and without LanternWaste Sep 2017 #42

Yeah melman Sep 2017 #43

btw melman Sep 2017 #44

If the top 5% paid their fair share it would be no problem. Coventina Sep 2017 #45

Really? dkhbrit Sep 2017 #48

Yes, I do. The tax brackets have been lowered, and lowered, and lowered over and over again. Coventina Sep 2017 #49

Define 'rich' dkhbrit Sep 2017 #63

If you are in the top 10% you are rich. Coventina Sep 2017 #64

$110k puts you in the top 10% hack89 Sep 2017 #71

Being better off than 90% of your fellow citizens is not rich? Coventina Sep 2017 #72

Not if you live in a high cost area hack89 Sep 2017 #73

I find it hard to muster tears for those making six figures, I confess. Coventina Sep 2017 #74

Making $110K living in Manhattan and making $85K in Waxahatchie, TX DFW Sep 2017 #81

I understand that, but that is something free college and universal healthcare could help to Coventina Sep 2017 #82

Help, but only on a minor basis. DFW Sep 2017 #83

I guess we just can't see eye-to-eye on this. Coventina Sep 2017 #84

Two things DFW Sep 2017 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author taught_me_patience Sep 2017 #68

The top 5% of payers represent 34% of total AGI taught_me_patience Sep 2017 #50

Whatever other countries are doing, especially the Scandinavian ones, that gives them universal Coventina Sep 2017 #65

The people that will be paying more in taxes are the ones who can afford to, the 1% Not Ruth Sep 2017 #52

Stuff has to be paid for, one way or another. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #54

A drop in the bucket compared to $700 BILLION for the military alarimer Sep 2017 #58

If that's true, it's still well worth it. Autumn Sep 2017 #60

So, if I pay $10,000 in taxes, I pay $12,500... and get to eliminate my $10,000 Employer Med Plan? TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #61

If you believe those figures, yes. former9thward Sep 2017 #87

Well, the way the article is presented seems to place a scare that a 25% increase is a bad thing. TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #88

Yes, but would it be 25%? former9thward Sep 2017 #89

You gotta start somewhere. But 15%, 25%, 35% or whatever will surely pound the 1%ers. TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #90

I find you very entertaining of late. Iggo Sep 2017 #62

Huge thread on this, going in all sorts of directions............ socialist_n_TN Sep 2017 #70

So an opinion piece from a pro-business mag is now a fact? Bradshaw3 Sep 2017 #76

Since free college isn't being presented GaryCnf Sep 2017 #78

We shouldn't call these things "free" treestar Sep 2017 #85