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ehrnst

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57. If you follow the hashtag

Fri Sep 22, 2017, 10:39 AM

Sep 2017

neverkamala, you can see.

And while such campaigns may be started by bots, they are eagerly swallowed and spread by very willing real people.

http://theweek.com/articles/715955/why-leftists-dont-trust-kamala-harris-cory-booker-deval-patrick

And these articles aren't by bots: (note - I am not bashing Kamala - quite the opposite. I am showing evidence of her being smeared on the left)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-01/kamala-harris-being-aggressively-manufactured-2020-wealthy-clinton-donors?page=1

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/we-dont-have-time-for-this-shit-4280ddf219c9

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/29/kamala-harris-inc-democrats-cant-afford-to-be-corporatists/

https://www.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/6osk4o/well_i_guess_we_know_for_sure_kamala_harris_is/

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Survey: Fewer black women say that the Democratic Party 'best represents' their interests [View all] ehrnst Sep 2017 OP

I could have told ya that! JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #1

Yeah, no kidding!! It doesn't help, all this talk by Sen. Schumer and others... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #81

The white male left is driving that push to the right. ehrnst Sep 2017 #89

Another bogus survey. Why even post such crap. brush Sep 2017 #2

Why do you say it's "bogus?" (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #3

It says right in the Op that the results are not representative of Black women across the country. brush Sep 2017 #4

That statement is precisely what gives it credibility. ehrnst Sep 2017 #6

You think that statement makes it credible? brush Sep 2017 #7

Apparently you didn't bother to read the article at the link before refuting what's not even in it. ehrnst Sep 2017 #8

A higher percentage? What percentage is it? .00000000001%? Come on. It's not worthy of DU. brush Sep 2017 #9

So you're not going to own that you didn't even read it before firing off a rant. ehrnst Sep 2017 #10

I own I read what you posted. There's a paywall. brush Sep 2017 #13

Um.... ehrnst Sep 2017 #14

This is the part you should highlight. brush Sep 2017 #15

Um... ehrnst Sep 2017 #18

Can be divisive and used as a repug talking point (Black women unhappy with Dems). brush Sep 2017 #21

How would you even know if you didn't read it? ehrnst Sep 2017 #25

What's the higher percentage then? I ask again, is it even measurable? brush Sep 2017 #27

You have no idea what you are talking about ehrnst Sep 2017 #29

Do you really think the premise of the survey is accurate? brush Sep 2017 #30

Do you even know that the premise of the survey is? ehrnst Sep 2017 #31

If the higher percentage, as claimed, is not measurable, what's the point? brush Sep 2017 #32

Your question makes no sense in relation to the article that you have not read. ehrnst Sep 2017 #33

You keep avoiding answering that question. brush Sep 2017 #34

Tell me who said that they were. ehrnst Sep 2017 #36

Didn't your excerpt say that a higher percentage of AA women were not happy? brush Sep 2017 #39

Nice try. Tell me where it said they were leaving the party. ehrnst Sep 2017 #42

Still waiting for the answer to where I said "AA women are going to leave the party." ehrnst Sep 2017 #79

I said "AA women are not about to leave the Democratic Party." brush Sep 2017 #83

Nice try, honey. You need to get it straight. ehrnst Sep 2017 #84

Is there a comprehension problem? I said AA women aren't leaving the party. brush Sep 2017 #111

There's also "open link in incognito mode"... moriah Sep 2017 #46

I gave him those instructions. ehrnst Sep 2017 #47

You gave me those instructions? brush Sep 2017 #50

Probably not in those exact words, but you guys were sparring. moriah Sep 2017 #56

Thank you again. brush Sep 2017 #61

Yes. Another post you clearly didn't bother to read before replying to. ehrnst Sep 2017 #59

Thank you. I'll try it. brush Sep 2017 #48

Because no self-selected group can be viewed as representative of anyone pnwmom Sep 2017 #66

"Why do you feel that the opinions of a group of black women aren't a worthy subject of a survey? " NobodyHere Sep 2017 #67

Self-selected survey participants equals bad results that are not meaningful elehhhhna Sep 2017 #62

I agree that the survey is not meaningful and that the small sample size makes the results... brush Sep 2017 #64

You insisted it said that AA women were "leaving the Party." ehrnst Sep 2017 #68

Give it a rest. You see I'm not the only one who thinks it's not meaningful. brush Sep 2017 #70

I'm not the one on this thread buying Strawmen by the dozen, and didn't even read the article. ehrnst Sep 2017 #71

Embarrassed? By a meaningless survey, hardly. brush Sep 2017 #75

Gonna stonewall that you had no clue what was in that survey when you fired off rants about it. ehrnst Sep 2017 #76

Don't have to. Your excerpt was enough to show that the survey claimed an unmeasurable percentage. brush Sep 2017 #77

Nope. You claimed it said that AA women were leaving the party. ehrnst Sep 2017 #82

They are claiming that this shift is "leftward." ehrnst Sep 2017 #69

The article addresses that. ehrnst Sep 2017 #72

While this isn't a scientific poll, the point it makes is one the party can't afford to ignore. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #5

Non scientific poll means it's pointless. n/t kcr Sep 2017 #96

Anecdotes are not data, but having heard the same sentiment from black women within and WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #98

Their voices should be heard, as should all voices. kcr Sep 2017 #100

What is the DNC doing? Lonestarblue Sep 2017 #11

I had no idea that this would turn into a critique of the the DNC website color pallette... ehrnst Sep 2017 #17

for 2020 I would love to have woman run for Pres & VP and set the Pres/VP team very early primary. Sunlei Sep 2017 #12

But then if you get someone who jumps in later..... ehrnst Sep 2017 #19

doesn't matter. Ds need someone NOW helping push back against Rs currently elected. Sunlei Sep 2017 #24

Campaign finance laws and rules kick in the minute you announce ehrnst Sep 2017 #35

It doesn't help that the only voters who are worthy of media attention Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #16

. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #102

Again, I say this to all who attack the Democratic Party or feel it is not 'good enough', Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #20

Which is why the AA women are still with the party, ehrnst Sep 2017 #22

They have a brain unlike others I could but won't mention. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #23

You mean even though of all groups the DNC does NOT represent as well as they should Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #103

Post removed Post removed Sep 2017 #26

I agree rock Sep 2017 #28

It's time to elect one to shatter some glass ceilings IronLionZion Sep 2017 #37

She's alreading being savaged by the brocialists with NEVERKAMALA ehrnst Sep 2017 #38

Who cares what they think IronLionZion Sep 2017 #40

Yeah, we saw how that worked with HRC on the far left. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #41

To be fair angrychair Sep 2017 #49

If you follow the hashtag ehrnst Sep 2017 #57

I dont dispute it exists angrychair Sep 2017 #74

Yep, I ran across it at an alleged liberal youtube chat for a liberal (alleged) host. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #105

My leading contender right now angrychair Sep 2017 #55

Not surprised. I have heard grumblings since a large group of dems have lunasun Sep 2017 #43

Of course trust has lessened, disappointment huge that they came through with 94% (!!!) Hortensis Sep 2017 #44

The article clarifies that they are not leaving the party, but they feel that neither party ehrnst Sep 2017 #45

Wouldn't have to read it to know that. :) The dishonest header is what I spoke to. Hortensis Sep 2017 #53

Here's an alternate header on the survey from The Root ehrnst Sep 2017 #95

Lol. Sorry, even more dishonest. But funny. Hortensis Sep 2017 #97

Just had this discussion with my daughter. It's mostly black women under 60 who feel that way. haveahart Sep 2017 #51

Mmmmm, can we now quit with thinking that white dudes are going to all american girl Sep 2017 #52

Sadly True Me. Sep 2017 #54

Re: "white male voters who have not supported the Democratic Party for 50 years" nycbos Sep 2017 #58

The party is confusing their white male donors with the white male base elehhhhna Sep 2017 #63

What do you mean? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #65

Still waiting for a clarification on what you mean ehrnst Sep 2017 #73

Focusing on white people who voted for Trump Bettie Sep 2017 #60

Bs on this poll and article kimbutgar Sep 2017 #78

Nope. Not Bs at all. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #88

As a black women I took offense to the article kimbutgar Sep 2017 #110

The Electoral College map is the problem treestar Sep 2017 #80

How does that impact how AA women feel about the Democratic party ehrnst Sep 2017 #87

We have to win the states treestar Sep 2017 #90

So you think that they don't understand what is going on ehrnst Sep 2017 #91

Well if he has to meet with them to keep them treestar Sep 2017 #92

No one said that the Democrats would lose AA women if Perez didn't meet with them ehrnst Sep 2017 #94

Most of us do treestar Sep 2017 #99

"I don't know how much time Perez should spend with each type of voter" ehrnst Sep 2017 #101

The one thing I bet a months salary on is you will NEVER hear black women say this: Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #106

Everyone calling this thread bs is sticking their head in the sand about this isssue. I said SweetieD Sep 2017 #85

It seems to be much easier to dismiss the opinions of AA women as "not being meaningful" ehrnst Sep 2017 #86

And yet black women did the right thing, they showed up in DROVES and all voted for Hillary Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #107

People didn't show up in droves. Overall black voted turn out was down. Of the people who did SweetieD Sep 2017 #113

Certainly there is a concerted effort BainsBane Sep 2017 #93

Good read. Thanks for sharing. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #104

If demographic groups within the party HeartachesNhangovers Sep 2017 #108

I am not surprised Gothmog Sep 2017 #109

Success and money can change people, as the songs go. WinkyDink Sep 2017 #112