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Expecting Rain

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20. "Framing" isn't the problem.
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 10:43 AM
Sep 2017

Democrats need to get behind a solution that works.

One that brings the maximum benefits, one that rationalizes costs, one that has transition plans, and one that has well-vetted hard numbers.

If single payer or Medicare for All plans have the cost savings through eliminating insurance company over-head (part of which is jobs, and will involve job loss) then proponents should welcome rigorous economic modeling.

I think many Americans in their hearts would love to see medical care extended to all Americans. The job now is to appeal to people's brains. Many are uncertain if Medicare for Elders is sustainable.

So if Democrats run on MFA we better have sound economic models to present to a largely skeptical (but at the same time increasingly receptive) public that reason is on the side of this option.

What will NOT work is sloganeering, saying "other countries do it," or running on plans that only symbolic in nature and ones that ignore costs and the difficulties of transitions. This won't be a winning ticket on ideology alone.

And against MFA we should compare the ACA with a public option to see which makes more sense.



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I think that single payer will be the issue of 2020 Not Ruth Sep 2017 #1
They should present "single payer" as the fix to the Republican mess. kentuck Sep 2017 #2
I agree, it makes sense not to frame it as socialism Not Ruth Sep 2017 #3
We Need To Stop Referring To This As 'Single Payer'..... global1 Sep 2017 #9
You make an important point, imo.... kentuck Sep 2017 #10
Bingo!!!!!.....nt global1 Sep 2017 #11
We should NEVER stop telling people Trump and team committed conspiracy against Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #26
Single payer followed by healthcare guarantee tokalion Sep 2017 #4
The threat of "socialism" still works with the American people. kentuck Sep 2017 #5
One plan of attack, no Blue Dog "democrats" being main DK504 Sep 2017 #6
I would recommend.... kentuck Sep 2017 #7
Who gets to decide who is a real Democrat? comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #8
Well-- MichMary Sep 2017 #12
The proof is in the pudding... kentuck Sep 2017 #13
You think people will eventually figure out who is going to help them get covered? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2017 #14
As the old saying goes... kentuck Sep 2017 #15
The Medicaid expansion helped MichMary Sep 2017 #18
Yes. Those in the middle and upper middle class paid much higher premiums. kentuck Sep 2017 #19
What a novel idea? Of course they're attempting to plan for all contingencies. Hortensis Sep 2017 #16
They have not proved capable of planning for all contingencies in the past? kentuck Sep 2017 #17
I'm afraid you're mistaking democracy at work, including massive voter incompetence, Hortensis Sep 2017 #23
"Framing" isn't the problem. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #20
I disagree. kentuck Sep 2017 #21
Thinking this is all about propaganda and spin makes an assumption that people are really stupid. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #25
Many millions voted for Trump. kentuck Sep 2017 #31
I believe the general populace is sick of hearing about it.... Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #22
Bingo maxsolomon Sep 2017 #29
Medicare for all is going to pass, so no worries. nt LexVegas Sep 2017 #24
Protect voting rights! Johnny2X2X Sep 2017 #27
Patty Murray and Lamar Alexander are working on a bi-partisan bill Beaverhausen Sep 2017 #28
"Medicare for All" is the ideal plan. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #30
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