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In reply to the discussion: I have deliberately avoided the Bernie Wars. [View all]Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)52. It's not Klobuchar I'm worried about.
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Just don't hold your breath waiting for Dana Bash to call out the lies and bullshit
elehhhhna
Sep 2017
#30
Is Sanders the right pick for this debate? You just know single-payer is going to be brought up...
brush
Sep 2017
#34
All of that is good but most people don't know Democratic Socialism from socialism.
brush
Sep 2017
#50
He's not a good debater, he gets distracted easily and he doesn't have the facts
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#60
I think he's a poor debater because he cannot effectively form coherent arguments that
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#71
No, my point is that he doesn't persuade you....but he persuades millions of others.
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#73
You keep claiming that debate equals persusasion, while ignoring the fact tha this history
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#100
That makes one of us...endorsing a single payer bill during the fight for the ACA has crossed her
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#137
what Gillibrand "gets" is that it is easier to get what you want in a negotiation between A and Z...
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#138
She did not want to be attacked as those who have not come out for single payer are on a daily basis
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#141
They've already done so, that whole press conference the other day was attacking Obama and
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#130
That is the way that it works.....You just have to be more popular than everyone else.
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#92
A number of politicians are "popular" among a larger group of voters than him.
George II
Sep 2017
#98
Yes they are, and I'm not "playing with words", I'm realistically looking at facts.
George II
Sep 2017
#109
Sorry, YOU have not presented any facts, just a sweeping proclamation about the relative....
George II
Sep 2017
#114
I referred to polls......you have not revealed the source of your information.
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#115
I have shown those polls before, and I am sure that you have seen them.
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#117
Here is the methodology of that poll, and the limited, cherry-picked choices for respondents....
George II
Sep 2017
#118
I've seen multiple polls this year. Bernie outpolls the field in all of them
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#123
Um, yeah, that's kinda why he "wins" all these popularity polls you keep insisting
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#126
You do realize that this obsession with popularity is rather unhealthy right?
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#162
I give him credit for helping the Democratic Party to come to its senses
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#163
He didn't win the only poll that mattered. In fact, he lost that poll by millions
lunamagica
Sep 2017
#132
and yet it is Bernie who is influencing the direction of the Democratic Party...
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#136
Bernie Sanders is not the leader nor ever will be of the Democratic Party. He is being
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#143
So, I've demonstrated the mega flaws in your poll, so you go on to other unspecified polls.
George II
Sep 2017
#155
Multiple polls say that Bernie is the most popular and all the polls are flawed
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#156
Well you've only given us one, and it was pointed out how that one was flawed. You countered....
George II
Sep 2017
#157
Bernie is the one who has been travelling the country attacking the Republicans for this
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#106
No he hasn't...he has been bringing up single payer everywhere... and putting out an ACA replacement
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#108
He has been attacking Republicans for their many "repeal and replace" plans
virtualobserver
Sep 2017
#111
Graham will get him to attack the ACA wait for it...he talks single payer and attacks the GOP bill
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#120
harvard national poll in August - he is the most popular active politician in the U.S.:
Liberty Belle
Sep 2017
#131
+1 The wars are the same cast of characters over and over. Very boring and counterproductive.
TheBlackAdder
Sep 2017
#24
But it's so much easier to bash Bernie & not self-reflect on mistakes the Party made.
CrispyQ
Sep 2017
#17
If Bernie sticks to fixing the ACA and how terrible it is rather then slinging his plan I say GOOD.
Old Vet
Sep 2017
#36
and here is another quote from 9/18-first one is from 9/19. The man make daily pro ACA statements.
Sunlei
Sep 2017
#59
start on, go to bernies twitter and he has a bunch of pro ACA statements. what will happen is
Sunlei
Sep 2017
#78
Bernie HAS been touring the country pushing just that. Maybe folks should concentrate on defeating
onecaliberal
Sep 2017
#80
Attack, attack and attack some more...the Democratic Party...the only vehicle for
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#144
I hope it doesn't deteriorate into an infomercial for "medicare for all", that is NOT the topic.
George II
Sep 2017
#6
I didn't see the Cruz debate, but I haven't been impressed with his debate skills.
thesquanderer
Sep 2017
#15
Whatever you call it and I don't give two fucks about that...it is not the ACA which is what must
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#146
If I were Bernie or Amy, my question would be to ask both of them to explain the following :
Chasstev365
Sep 2017
#16
They know Sanders will have a hard time giving the ACA strong and full throated support. He has to.
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#33
The GOP is certainly going to try that. I worry that he can't be passionate about it...
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#154
We need Amy to come through here. She will have to carry the weakest debater in the group. nt
LexVegas
Sep 2017
#23
Yeah, all this bickering between Hillary and Bernie loyalists is pretty depressing.
Bucky
Sep 2017
#27
I will hold every person involved in putting out a single payer/MFA bill at this time, that can't be
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#148
I believe that this will be Bernie's finest hour, so do those who want him to fail
Not Ruth
Sep 2017
#35
I dont believe anyone wants Bernie to fail, Just represent fixing the ACA like a democratic would...
Old Vet
Sep 2017
#39
This debate is gonna be prime time, The big time. Theres alot riding on how he represents......
Old Vet
Sep 2017
#48
I don't believe anyone wants Bernie to fail here, it's just that we've seen him
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#72
Its perfectly alright not to like Sanders, Just like Clinton. But at some point...........
Old Vet
Sep 2017
#49
There's no evidence to support your claim. The primary is over so there are no "one-sided" attacks
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#66
I don't agree. This debate is another distraction, and a way for the GOP to
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#149
Bernie and Amy WILL crush... there's a reason single-payer healthcare polls so well.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Sep 2017
#151
Not since the primaries. I regret the time I wasted that I can never get back.
DemocratSinceBirth
Sep 2017
#171