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LostOne4Ever

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34. And where did campaigning on a popular idea at the time get the rethugs?
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 07:13 PM
Sep 2017

It only gave them the house, the senate, the SCotUS, most governorships and state legislatures, and the presidency.

We absolutely can't have that!

The lesson of the GOP's failure (and The ACA's success) is that if we want to pass MFA or single payer we will need a large enough majority that democratic moderates won't kill the bill or we are going to have to come up with compromise bill working with GOP moderates.

This whole MFA will hurt us meme is self defeatism from conservative Dems who want compromise our position before we even begin negotiating and the vindictiveness of Sanders Derangement syndrome suffers who refuse to stop refighting the primary and have to find someway to turn ANY POSITION Bernie supports into a negative.

Supporting MFA helps us defend against the criticism that all we are about is opposing Trump and have no solutions of our own. It does something that the Democratic Party desperately needed and Bernie excels at. It gives us a positive and grand vision of what we want to do to help the country that can inspire people! That is why Dems like Booker, Warren, Harris, etc. support it!

It makes us the party of "yes we can" again! At least it would if we quit listening to those who think "no we can't" is a winning strategy...

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K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #1
K AND R FOR EXPOSURE AND DEBATE DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2017 #2
We should never talk about it. theaocp Sep 2017 #3
I didn't see that at all from the post ehrnst Sep 2017 #5
It is the wrong time now. Save the ACA. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #20
K&R sheshe2 Sep 2017 #4
Truth. nt LexVegas Sep 2017 #6
I wish everyone would call it Medicare For All, as it's named n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #7
That is the name of a specific bill, not the term for the system. ehrnst Sep 2017 #9
It's what Sanders and the co-sponsors call it leftstreet Sep 2017 #26
I know exactly why Sanders chose it. Medicare is popular. That's good marketing. Good politics. ehrnst Sep 2017 #27
No matter what you call it... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #12
It's what Sanders and the co-sponsors call it n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #25
Honestly, I am very angry with all of them. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #28
The article uses correct terminology, as would be applied to any such bill. ehrnst Sep 2017 #32
Thank You Me. Sep 2017 #8
It is very (very) hard to take away benefits once they are established, Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #10
But that's not a post that will get applause. ehrnst Sep 2017 #13
I'd make a very lousy populist demagogue. Expecting Rain Sep 2017 #15
Why do you hate progress? ehrnst Sep 2017 #16
nonsense. you don't decide that. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #21
I agree. brer cat Sep 2017 #17
True. And the "Medicare for All" bill as proposed is different than Medicare as it is. ehrnst Sep 2017 #24
K&R Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #11
The ACA is the farthest down the road we have ever been to UHC. ehrnst Sep 2017 #14
Home now...can type better...hubs had last interview today...and they knew he had an offer so Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #29
Just heard pundit say debate bad idea. On cell Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #18
Good article, ehrnst. brer cat Sep 2017 #19
The ACA is/was market oriented. kentuck Sep 2017 #22
Actually, it's a series of regulations that limits and directs the market in many ways ehrnst Sep 2017 #23
It could work with some tweaks and it is all we have and if goes it is all we ever had. There is no Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #30
The vast majority of countries with universal health care have Public/private hybrids ehrnst Sep 2017 #31
Exactly. Germany has a similar system to the ACA...we would need strong price controls on Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #33
And where did campaigning on a popular idea at the time get the rethugs? LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #34
They campaigned to get rid of something...they found a common enemy. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #37
K&R Gothmog Sep 2017 #35
A lot of stupid people are still opposed to one big government plan. A Public Option Hoyt Sep 2017 #36
That is a good idea...let people buy into Medicare. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #38
This is playing right into Republican hands CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #39
No one is stopping discussion of Single Payer & we should NOT be censoring health policy experts ehrnst Sep 2017 #40
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