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In reply to the discussion: How single payer helps Republicans change the subject [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)40. No one is stopping discussion of Single Payer & we should NOT be censoring health policy experts
The OP is discussing Single Payer and the real political ramifications (pro and con) of pushing it now. The Kaiser Family Foundation is a health policy think tank - it's their job to analyze health policy.
We need a much deeper actual discussion of it, not just yelling it as a slogan, with no real understanding of what is actually in it. The slogan yelling is what gives the GOP stupid prizes. "Medicare for all" and it's false comparison to Medicare is going to give the GOP as much ammunition as Obama did when he said, "You can keep your doctor." THAT is what is coming once they point out how different, and vastly more expensive it is than Medicare.
And about polls:
Reality check: Single payer is popular, but polling today doesn't tell us much about where the public will be if there is a national debate about actual single-payer legislation in the Congress. ACA repeal had the support of about half the public in Kaiser Family Foundation polling in late 2016 and early 2017, but fell to closer to 30 percent once there was an replacement plan under the microscope.
Support for single-payer falls by 10 to 20 percentage points when people are read common criticisms, such as that it will increase taxes or give the government too much control over health care. Arguments in favor, including that single payer will make health a basic right or reduce administrative costs, increase support by similar amounts.
Support for single-payer falls by 10 to 20 percentage points when people are read common criticisms, such as that it will increase taxes or give the government too much control over health care. Arguments in favor, including that single payer will make health a basic right or reduce administrative costs, increase support by similar amounts.
So, if the GOP is able to hijack all the slogan yelling about "Medicare for All!" and turn it into "socialized medicine!!" (which it not, any more than it is Medicare) and turn public opinion against it - I highly doubt that you will think negative polls are a reason to reverse your support of it. Remember, they did that with the ACA.
So I would be cautious about using polls as a evidence that "Medicare for All" is or is not feasible.
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I know exactly why Sanders chose it. Medicare is popular. That's good marketing. Good politics.
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#27
True. And the "Medicare for All" bill as proposed is different than Medicare as it is.
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#24
Home now...can type better...hubs had last interview today...and they knew he had an offer so
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#29
Actually, it's a series of regulations that limits and directs the market in many ways
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#23
It could work with some tweaks and it is all we have and if goes it is all we ever had. There is no
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#30
The vast majority of countries with universal health care have Public/private hybrids
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#31
Exactly. Germany has a similar system to the ACA...we would need strong price controls on
Demsrule86
Sep 2017
#33