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BzaDem

(11,142 posts)
32. "The world is not a complicated place when it comes to Republicans."
Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:18 AM
Sep 2017

And yet somehow, despite everything you said about how implacable and impervious to pressure Republicans are, three Republicans saw fit to kill the last version of Obamacare repeal. These republicans were by no means Obamacare fans: they all voted against Obamacare in the first instance, and two of the three previously voted to repeal all of it (back when Obama was president). Despite all of this, they decided to save Obamacare by preventing its repeal, when their votes were decisive, after months of pressure from Democrats. That state of affairs is quite inconvenient for your argument, and your simplistic worldview.

You would claim that this surely had nothing to do with the strategic pressure Democrats have been putting on the Republicans over the last several months. In fact, you would have us believe that no action of any Democrat contributed to this outcome. Yet the outcome happened anyway, with three Republican votes being decisive. Hmmmmmmm.

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Why are democrats peddling right wing talking points? onecaliberal Sep 2017 #1
That's a great question SHRED Sep 2017 #2
I'm not sure if they're really Dems. onecaliberal Sep 2017 #3
DINOs probably. ananda Sep 2017 #42
Corporate Democrats... we want hope they give us more bs... n/m bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2017 #11
Yup, exactly CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #36
That's it zentrum Sep 2017 #13
They aren't right wing talking points. They are common sense talking points pnwmom Sep 2017 #15
They don't pass the hardline purity test.... OnDoutside Sep 2017 #28
Rather than allowing someone to frame a narrative lapucelle Sep 2017 #56
Some people are still living to bash Sanders Warpy Sep 2017 #16
Some people don't give a damn about one senator and are concerned with policy while Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #53
and isn't it weird how you'll see some users post consistently around a 24 hour clock? Turn CO Blue Sep 2017 #74
+1000 THIS!! diva77 Sep 2017 #4
Makes one wonder where this right wing stuff is coming from. jalan48 Sep 2017 #5
I didn't think we were supposed to peddle right wing talking points here though. onecaliberal Sep 2017 #34
Well since I am certain...an attempt was made to end this discussion, I guess it wasn't Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #54
Democrats were "peddling" these thoughts before any Republican pundits weighed in. pnwmom Sep 2017 #63
actually i think sending someone who acknowledges there are questionseverything Sep 2017 #72
It does make one wonder............ jalan48 Sep 2017 #69
Amazing isn't it melman Sep 2017 #6
The Fox News branch of The Democratic Party Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #7
They've been "Foxified" n/m bagelsforbreakfast Sep 2017 #10
And Morning Joe'd. SMC22307 Sep 2017 #12
Since the Democratic party is now to the right of where Nixon was, perhaps Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #8
They don't CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #38
+1 jalan48 Sep 2017 #70
DURec leftstreet Sep 2017 #9
The mouth piece for the Nixon and Reagan Administrations ZX86 Sep 2017 #14
This! SHRED Sep 2017 #17
"imprisoned"????? are you kidding? good heavens . . . DrDan Sep 2017 #39
Watergate or Iran/Contra ring any bells? ZX86 Sep 2017 #43
so everyone in Nixon's administration was a part of the Watergate breakin DrDan Sep 2017 #44
Is the getaway driver a part of the bank robbery? ZX86 Sep 2017 #47
so you want the presidential limo driver also "prosecuted and imprisoned" - got it DrDan Sep 2017 #52
Are you serious? ZX86 Sep 2017 #57
you are the one calling for EVERYONE in these administrations to be prosecuted and imprisoned DrDan Sep 2017 #68
No, but I could ask Grandpa after his nap. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #55
On this particular issue, the only thing that matters is the opinion of 2-3 moderate Republicans. BzaDem Sep 2017 #18
Situational variables Awsi Dooger Sep 2017 #19
On this particular issue I fully endorse this post. ZX86 Sep 2017 #20
Fortunately, our party has people who take a slightly more sophisticated view of how to stop this. BzaDem Sep 2017 #21
What do suggest? Asking them nicely? Saying "Pretty please" first? ZX86 Sep 2017 #22
what are you talking about ? this is about graham cassidy bill and mccain said he will not support JI7 Sep 2017 #23
So what's your point? ZX86 Sep 2017 #24
do what we did to defeat it before. call senators JI7 Sep 2017 #25
"Republicans will not vote down Republican legislation no matter what we do or say." BzaDem Sep 2017 #26
If you think Democrats did anything to change the votes of Republicans ZX86 Sep 2017 #30
Why haven't you stopped them? delisen Sep 2017 #31
Why take action when you can simply seethe with anger instead? The latter is much easier. n/t BzaDem Sep 2017 #33
Embracing right wing talking points from some Republican ZX86 Sep 2017 #51
That doesn't answer my question. delisen Sep 2017 #71
And we all know a certain number of folks...think that if the ACA goes down...why MFA Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #58
"certain number of folks...think that if the ACA goes down...why MFA will immediately pass" ZX86 Sep 2017 #61
There are OP's about it. You know I can't name names. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #67
Why haven't I stopped them? ZX86 Sep 2017 #45
Working in the trenches to stop murdercare...google Chris Murphy...there are Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #50
"The world is not a complicated place when it comes to Republicans." BzaDem Sep 2017 #32
Revisionist history. ZX86 Sep 2017 #46
Are you serious? BzaDem Sep 2017 #73
Perhaps you don't understand the process. ZX86 Sep 2017 #75
Things are so bogus that now the gerg The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #27
IKR? shanny Sep 2017 #29
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Sep 2017 #35
Trolls RandiFan1290 Sep 2017 #37
Some things are so obvious/logical/commonsense they are noticed by everyone including non-DEMS. Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #40
Thanks SHRED! MuseRider Sep 2017 #41
Thank you SHRED Sep 2017 #49
Hey look in my opinion, he is correct in his assertion about the timing of MFA Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #48
David Gergen doesn't want Medicare for all SHRED Sep 2017 #59
I don't think any Gop type has our party's interest at heart. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #60
I have no problem with us discussing this SHRED Sep 2017 #62
I actually am extremely liberal, but I recognize the need for bluedogs so we can have a majority- Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #64
No. I don't listen to Gergen. Ever. old guy Sep 2017 #65
Some will listen and accept words from any piece of shit, as long as that piece of shit hates Autumn Sep 2017 #66
Wow, that touched a nerve. Gergen said the same thing about not making the debate between betsuni Sep 2017 #76
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