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Demsrule86

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20. Not if we lose the ACA...if that happens we won't have any healthcare at all .

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:57 AM

Sep 2017

We would need 60 votes at least in the Senate, a majority in the House and the presidency. It has happened twice in 30 + years. It would be smarter to use the ACA to achieve universal coverage.

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Poll: Plurality supports single-payer health care [View all] CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 OP

Very soft...raise taxes and see what happens...can we please stop worrying about single payer and Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #1

Nope, we are able to do both. CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #2

Ikr Lunabell Sep 2017 #7

Because some are afraid of change CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #8

The change that I fear is that millions lose their coverage if the ACA goes down... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #50

They said the same thing about the ACA CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #60

Green Mountain Care tanked in part because the taxes ended up WAY higher than ehrnst Sep 2017 #14

For what purpose? Single payer will not pass without a supermajority. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #15

So you're part of the 18%? ornotna Sep 2017 #5

I don't believe people will support single payer at the moment...first of all those Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #11

I agree. I would pay higher taxes also. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #16

What 18%? ehrnst Sep 2017 #18

Its in the OP ornotna Sep 2017 #38

Nice try. I support universal coverage and wish to achieve it without killing thousands of people. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #56

Yep, strawmen by the gross around here. ehrnst Sep 2017 #63

Yes, people who think MFA is around the corner based on some poll...who Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #64

A false choice. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #52

Let's focus on what's right in front of us. RandySF Sep 2017 #3

That is what I am saying...we have the ACA...we gave up a majority to get it...and we have not shot Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #17

Awesome, which form is getting wide support? Ninsianna Sep 2017 #4

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #19

We don't have the actual Senate bill yet, so we don't know the details. lapucelle Sep 2017 #6

The bill was introduced the same day as murdercare...how do we not have details? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #51

But it's impossible because of the profit-loving, money-worshipping Republicans. Vinca Sep 2017 #9

We are heading in the right direction. Nt Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #10

Not if we lose the ACA...if that happens we won't have any healthcare at all . Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #20

"Not if we lose the ACA...if that happens we won't have any healthcare at all ." Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #33

Well I guess the millions who lose coverage and the thousands who die will have to take one Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #53

I hope to see single payer in the next 10 years. Glad the ball is rolling Arazi Sep 2017 #12

I hope to see pink unicorns...you have about the same chance. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #21

Sich negativity on single payer CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #24

I will not waste my time fighting for something that won't happen. I will on the other hand Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #26

You're going against the very thing that will bring voters to the polls CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #34

It won't bring voters to the polls. Support is soft...tell me how you convince people who get Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #35

Single payer will bring out voters in droves CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #37

Yes - and an electric car is cheaper to run. It's the sticker price ehrnst Sep 2017 #39

Last I looked CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #40

Well, if you make more than the median income they are "rather affordable" ehrnst Sep 2017 #41

They are $30k, CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #42

Yes, I'm sure all the people struggling to pay for health care ehrnst Sep 2017 #43

Now you want to argue with me about the price of cars? lol CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #44

Went right along with it, didn't you? ehrnst Sep 2017 #45

And? So what if if I'm new on DU? CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #46

You did not explain how people who get work place insurance will be convinced to support single Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #47

I think just the opposite will happen. The GOP will demonize MFA Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #48

Support for single-payer falls by 10 to 20 percentage points when people are read common criticisms, ehrnst Sep 2017 #13

This will be tough. It will make the ACA look like a walk in the park... Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #22

Which is why you have to explain to them that they will ultimately save thousands Quixote1818 Sep 2017 #29

You are forgetting the sheer amount of misinformation still going around about the ACA. ehrnst Sep 2017 #32

According to that poll, plurality also supports free college and universal basic income oberliner Sep 2017 #23

And there it is! CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #25

And if that majority becomes a minority? ehrnst Sep 2017 #27

Of course not oberliner Sep 2017 #28

Polls responses can be malleable, depending on what is actually asked. ehrnst Sep 2017 #31

That's true oberliner Sep 2017 #36

And have we achieved any of the above? Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #49

We got a tax hike on the wealthy during the Obama presidency oberliner Sep 2017 #55

Most of the tax cuts were for the ACA. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #57

The effective federal tax rate for the top 1% went up from 27% to 32% under Obama oberliner Sep 2017 #58

Yeah, but.... vi5 Sep 2017 #30

80 to 90 percent support background checks and registration for firearms... LuvLoogie Sep 2017 #54

Bernie supports background checks CherokeeFiddle Sep 2017 #59

It's all about who makes money off of it nolabels Sep 2017 #61

Amazing. Snackshack Sep 2017 #62