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factfinder_77

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Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:32 AM Sep 2017

The progressive liberal way or nothing, bipartisan health care is not health care "concern trolls" [View all]

However, without overwhelming partisan supermajorities, a degree of bipartisanship is simply necessary to govern. Obama understood it, ignored the naysayers, and faced up to the challenge.

Our politics may be broken, with an electorate so polarized that there is little to be gained by constructively engaging the opposing party and forging difficult compromises. But the governing structure designed by our Founders is not. Obama proved time and time again that bipartisan policymaking is still feasible within the framework of the Constitution. He just could have used more members of Congress who were willing to admit it
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/01/16/obamas_unsung_bipartisan_legacy_132798.html


Most people her at DU and in US do think we need a health care system that provide medical assistance to everyone.
But new laws can’t be created in a revolution, based on lofty rhetoric, devisees about anyone that thinks different than you, and no specifics about funding.

Any new health law would require a bipartisan undertaking, and must be viewed in relationship with with a new tax code scheme
They way Sanders and left wingers of our party is behaving is utterly disgusting, because they do not recognize or give credit to democratic politicians, and some of the moderate republicans, who are fighting for a more just and fair health care system.

Despite knowing both houses are controlled by republicans, and we have a fucked up neo nazi as president, who want to create havoc, and desperately needs some wins..

A new tax code is coming up your “troll” way”, ant it will stop any universal, single payer health system, in its tracks.

This is not the way real politics is done, and its why congress and senate have a historic low approval rating.

We need to listen to each other, and find common ground where it is to be found.

And hopefully we will reach some sort of universal, single payer health care system on the way.
But it won’t be easy, and it wont be under the leadership of the political revolution of the Sanders wing or our party.

It will be a undertaking that require patience, humility, and corporation over the party lines.
Something that Sanders has never, and will never understand.

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1) The GOP controls the agenda. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #1
Sen. Dean Heller (R-Nev) is one. Rand Paul and Susan Collins factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #3
Heller is a co-sponsor of the current, proposed, horrible GOP Bill, is he not? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #5
The GOP bill is Graham-Cassidy-HELLER Nevernose Sep 2017 #8
It can be done: Obama's Unsung Bipartisan Legacy factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #4
Yes, the legacy. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #6
I'm all for bipartisanship. I think most of us are. PragmaticLiberal Sep 2017 #11
Frankly, I'm tired of the Anti-Sanders stuff. We have real issues to deal with. bitterross Sep 2017 #2
This is not debating last election, Sanders has just poposed his new "Single-Payer Health Care Bill" factfinder_77 Sep 2017 #7
You seem to have an Anti-Sanders bent to your posts. Stirring the pot much? bitterross Sep 2017 #10
I am tired of the constant pro-Sanders post...it is like it is being shoved down our throats. Demsrule86 Sep 2017 #13
Like it or not - Sanders has a following and a pulpit bitterross Sep 2017 #15
The problem is that a large ethos of his "following" is to spread disinformation R B Garr Sep 2017 #18
I find it hard to disagree that the Dem's Strategy is absolute failure. bitterross Sep 2017 #22
quit carrying water for "Republicans divide Ds" pogrom, we're keeping Sanders & any other D friends Sunlei Sep 2017 #14
That is my fear too - spending too much time helping the deplorables bitterross Sep 2017 #16
Then Republicans should be attacked instead of Democrats. R B Garr Sep 2017 #19
pick-up the phone, call congress/senate and tell them what you want. post all you want, its cheap Sunlei Sep 2017 #20
I'm tired of being labelled a troll. sarah FAILIN Sep 2017 #9
get off Sanders back,he says, "keep ACA" and make Congress improve it. Like USA did with SS, medica Sunlei Sep 2017 #12
Was it was a different Senator Sanders who worked with McCain in a bipartisan way on the VA bill ? karynnj Sep 2017 #17
Oh you again, huh? hedda_foil Sep 2017 #21
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