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In reply to the discussion: The Nation: Bernie Sanders Just Gave the Progressive Foreign-Policy Speech Weve Been Waiting For [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)60. I think you may be confusing me with another poster?
Seems that those who tell the truth around here about health care policy get flamed.
Johnson maneuvered every step of the way getting this bill through Congress, and one of the things he did and this is a little dicey in today's climate was suppress the costs. So this young kid gets elected from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy, in 1962, and Johnson is explaining to him [over the phone] how you get a health bill through. And what he tells him is don't let them get the costs projected too far out because it will scare other people:
We believe, after looking at the evidence, my co-author [David Blumenthal] and I, that if the true cost of Medicare had been known if Johnson hadn't basically hidden them the program would never have passed. America's second-most beloved program would never have happened, if we had had genuine cost estimates.
"A health program yesterday runs $300 million, but the fools had to go to projecting it down the road five or six years, and when you project it the first year, it runs $900 million. Now I don't know whether I would approve $900 million second year or not. I might approve 450 or 500. But the first thing Dick Russell comes running in saying, 'My God, you've got a billion-dollar program for next year on health, therefore I'm against any of it now.' Do you follow me?"
We believe, after looking at the evidence, my co-author [David Blumenthal] and I, that if the true cost of Medicare had been known if Johnson hadn't basically hidden them the program would never have passed. America's second-most beloved program would never have happened, if we had had genuine cost estimates.
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The Nation: Bernie Sanders Just Gave the Progressive Foreign-Policy Speech Weve Been Waiting For [View all]
Hassin Bin Sober
Sep 2017
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I, for one, do not need Bernie Sanders speaking for the Democratic Party. Don't want or need it.
tonyt53
Sep 2017
#2
So when day and time do "Progressives" start their own party and leave the Democratic Party?
tonyt53
Sep 2017
#4
Can you please pay attention to the content. Leave your Bernie hate at the door.
tecelote
Sep 2017
#16
Churchill is the guy who engaged in a genocide of 2 million brown people by deliberate
Ninsianna
Sep 2017
#94
Can't have a single positive Bernie thread without someone pissing in the punch bowl. Nt
LostOne4Ever
Sep 2017
#21
Many great actions by our leaders started by a spoken vision, not all of them spang forth complete
Autumn
Sep 2017
#50
Oh well I guess you proved LBJ is as bad as any fucking republican. Good on you.
Autumn
Sep 2017
#56
Are you saying that Obama didn't have a plan all laid out explaining EXACTLY how the ACA was
Autumn
Sep 2017
#63
I read your article. There was NO exact plan laid out by Obama, yet some expect Bernie to have one .
Autumn
Sep 2017
#65
If there were any truth to your insults it might would sting but your insults are nothing
Autumn
Sep 2017
#73
Nothing to do with "I know you are but what am I? You still proved my point. You can't change that
Autumn
Sep 2017
#79
Nobody here wants universal healthcare for all more than you or I do. Which is WHY
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
#75
Isnt JPR filled with people who delighted in something really bad that happened that I am not
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
#66
So we will see a repeat of history as I have predicted a few thousand times over the
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
#71
I once assumed that would happen because it was forced on us by the GOP
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
#82
Any one taking about reducing the military budget has to be honest about their part in it-
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#20
Don't be fooled- some of them already have all the pork their state wants! 1.5 trillion ain't
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#30
Ignore the F-16 program with all your might. But it won't go away because VT wants $$$$$ for war too
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#34
I'm not ignoring. So you need me to argue or agree with you? You have said it
Nanjeanne
Sep 2017
#35
This may seem petty, and I really don't intend to be confrontational, but you have it wrong
The Polack MSgt
Sep 2017
#99
No worries. It's just that VT has its war pork same as everyone else, yet they get a pass.
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#102
Like you say, it's only part of the circle of life - "fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly".........
George II
Sep 2017
#92
To end dependence on oil, lol. It made me wonder if he's paying any attention at all.
bettyellen
Sep 2017
#45
Or why he and Rand Paul were the only 2 senators to vote against the Russia sanctions?
VOX
Sep 2017
#40
I know, but nobody even talks about it, like it doesnt matter or didnt happen
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2017
#44