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Eliot Rosewater

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71. So we will see a repeat of history as I have predicted a few thousand times over the

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:55 PM

Sep 2017

past few months.

I keep hoping if I SCREAM about it loud enough, often enough, people will wake up and not insist on repeating.

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The Nation: Bernie Sanders Just Gave the Progressive Foreign-Policy Speech Weve Been Waiting For [View all] Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 OP

Can't find concrete answers. Have used up my free Nation quota. bettyellen Sep 2017 #1

Transcript - Bernie's speech Mike__M Sep 2017 #9

Thanks! Conceptually it's beautiful. No real answers on Syria... bettyellen Sep 2017 #11

Thats my take on things too. arthritisR_US Sep 2017 #18

I, for one, do not need Bernie Sanders speaking for the Democratic Party. Don't want or need it. tonyt53 Sep 2017 #2

His speech doesn't appear to mention Democrats n/t leftstreet Sep 2017 #3

So when day and time do "Progressives" start their own party and leave the Democratic Party? tonyt53 Sep 2017 #4

I thought the Democratic party embraced progressive ideas leftstreet Sep 2017 #5

Pretty much the same difference, unless you are splitting hairs. tonyt53 Sep 2017 #6

Tony has spoken theaocp Sep 2017 #8

That's the message I got. Loud and clear. (N/T) Old Crow Sep 2017 #14

спасибо товарищу 0rganism Sep 2017 #15

Actually, my response is quite the opposite . tonyt53 Sep 2017 #49

Would that make you happy? Jim Lane Sep 2017 #42

Can you please pay attention to the content. Leave your Bernie hate at the door. tecelote Sep 2017 #16

Churchill is the guy who engaged in a genocide of 2 million brown people by deliberate Ninsianna Sep 2017 #94

Can't have a single positive Bernie thread without someone pissing in the punch bowl. Nt LostOne4Ever Sep 2017 #21

I think he's speaking for the American people. Autumn Sep 2017 #26

Except for those who would like some more details. ehrnst Sep 2017 #46

Many great actions by our leaders started by a spoken vision, not all of them spang forth complete Autumn Sep 2017 #50

I guess if you never question a leader's vision, ehrnst Sep 2017 #51

I remember when Medicare and the ACA were visions but oh well. nt. Autumn Sep 2017 #54

Yeah, and LBJ had to lie about what they cost to get them passed. ehrnst Sep 2017 #55

Oh well I guess you proved LBJ is as bad as any fucking republican. Good on you. Autumn Sep 2017 #56

I think you may be confusing me with another poster? ehrnst Sep 2017 #60

About Obama and the origins of the ACA ehrnst Sep 2017 #62

Are you saying that Obama didn't have a plan all laid out explaining EXACTLY how the ACA was Autumn Sep 2017 #63

Perhaps you should read my post again. This time, move the strawman. ehrnst Sep 2017 #64

I read your article. There was NO exact plan laid out by Obama, yet some expect Bernie to have one . Autumn Sep 2017 #65

You seem to have bought strawmen in bulk - did you find a sale? ehrnst Sep 2017 #67

You seem to be adressing a different post so whatever. Autumn Sep 2017 #68

LOL. I guess you weren't done after all... ehrnst Sep 2017 #69

If there were any truth to your insults it might would sting but your insults are nothing Autumn Sep 2017 #73

And you still can't leave it there.... ehrnst Sep 2017 #74

Nothing to do with "I know you are but what am I? You still proved my point. You can't change that Autumn Sep 2017 #79

He has submitted a bill. ehrnst Sep 2017 #83

LOL Gothmog Sep 2017 #96

You rock! (If you don't mind my saying.) NurseJackie Sep 2017 #103

Nobody here wants universal healthcare for all more than you or I do. Which is WHY Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #75

Rather hot for this time of year. ehrnst Sep 2017 #76

Dont ask, sucks. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #77

Isnt JPR filled with people who delighted in something really bad that happened that I am not Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #66

There are several who post both places. ehrnst Sep 2017 #70

So we will see a repeat of history as I have predicted a few thousand times over the Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #71

But, you know - maybe it just has to "all burn down" ehrnst Sep 2017 #72

Yup +++++++++++++ JHan Sep 2017 #81

I once assumed that would happen because it was forced on us by the GOP Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #82

Our own tea party. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #84

There's Nothing Partyish About It Me. Sep 2017 #95

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Do we move away from endless war and ever rising war budgets? guillaumeb Sep 2017 #7

Renounce the 1.5 trillion F-16 program. Leading by example works for me. bettyellen Sep 2017 #12

One excellent example, and there are others. eom guillaumeb Sep 2017 #17

Any one taking about reducing the military budget has to be honest about their part in it- bettyellen Sep 2017 #20

And THAT concept of pork, and who benefits, guillaumeb Sep 2017 #22

I know. It's really too bad so many Dems voted for the increase in military Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #25

Don't be fooled- some of them already have all the pork their state wants! 1.5 trillion ain't bettyellen Sep 2017 #30

Oh ok. I'll check out Oregon and NY pork. Thanks. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #33

Ignore the F-16 program with all your might. But it won't go away because VT wants $$$$$ for war too bettyellen Sep 2017 #34

I'm not ignoring. So you need me to argue or agree with you? You have said it Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #35

This may seem petty, and I really don't intend to be confrontational, but you have it wrong The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #99

No worries. It's just that VT has its war pork same as everyone else, yet they get a pass. bettyellen Sep 2017 #102

Oh, the pork is spead out so all the politicians can get a bite. The Polack MSgt Sep 2017 #104

Not seeing that in the Single Payer bill. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #52

Lowering the war budget is unthinkable for politicians. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #58

Still don't see that in the Single Payer bill. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2017 #59

It is a single issue Bill, not a budget resolution. eom guillaumeb Sep 2017 #78

It would be nice if there were actually discussions about the ideas Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #10

Difficult to deny. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #23

There is real discussion of this speech ehrnst Sep 2017 #80

Saw this earlier. Came to post it but ya beat me to it Arazi Sep 2017 #13

I see a lot of questions, not much "policy". George II Sep 2017 #19

Which questions? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #37

I've already taken my visit to the aquarium this week, thanks. George II Sep 2017 #39

Huh? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2017 #41

I hear it's lovely! Lots of clownfish. ehrnst Sep 2017 #87

Yes, they have a bunch of them: George II Sep 2017 #89

Don't hate me JustAnotherGen Sep 2017 #91

Like you say, it's only part of the circle of life - "fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly"......... George II Sep 2017 #92

Many are addressed here, at length ehrnst Sep 2017 #86

Thanks for the Post. nt zentrum Sep 2017 #24

Does he mention the great enemy of the human race and freedom, Putin? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #27

Yes. Just read the speech. Nanjeanne Sep 2017 #29

Talks about working with Russia to reduce dependence on oil.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #31

Working with Russia? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #43

To end dependence on oil, lol. It made me wonder if he's paying any attention at all. bettyellen Sep 2017 #45

Isn't the Russian economy dependent on oil and gas exports? comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #53

Or why he and Rand Paul were the only 2 senators to vote against the Russia sanctions? VOX Sep 2017 #40

I know, but nobody even talks about it, like it doesnt matter or didnt happen Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #44

SHHHHHH!!!!!!!! ehrnst Sep 2017 #88

Bernie's foreign policy speech Equinox Moon Sep 2017 #28

Why so insecure? rainin Sep 2017 #32

Thanks for bringing this. K&R nt riderinthestorm Sep 2017 #36

K&R.. disillusioned73 Sep 2017 #47

I thought it lacked A LOT Tavarious Jackson Sep 2017 #48

It's a speech intended to rouse enthusiasm and passion Kentonio Sep 2017 #61

First the good bits: JHan Sep 2017 #85

Great minds... ehrnst Sep 2017 #100

And a former candidate for POTUS could be expected to have some concrete ideas about this ehrnst Sep 2017 #90

Rings a bell DFW Sep 2017 #98

:) Man_Bear_Pig Sep 2017 #57

Sanders is clearly the best statesman alive right now. ananda Sep 2017 #93

Yup! burrowowl Sep 2017 #97

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