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MichMan

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25. People are fired for off the job activities as well

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:35 PM

Sep 2017

Remember all the support here for those employees who were fired because pictures of them marching in the Nazi rally in Charlottesville surfaced?

Yea, me neither

As I recall, everyone commenting here thought they got what they deserved even though in these cases it had nothing to do with work.

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So NASCAR tells it members that they are not American citizens and may not exercise their rights [View all] Augiedog Sep 2017 OP

While I get where your going Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #1

So if I stood alone in a room and whispered "i support Hillary" and the owner Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #2

Employment at will MichMary Sep 2017 #3

Only in right to work states. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #8

"Right to work" has nothing to do with this Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #10

Um... most employees, in any state, are at-will employees jberryhill Sep 2017 #14

see this question then please Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #15

While the answer to your question may potentially turn on certain state laws . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Sep 2017 #4

Unless it is a right to work state, the employer would have to have "legal" conditions Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #7

"Right to work" has absolutely nothing to do with this Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #11

Then my point is even stronger Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #12

No its not Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #16

So political speech is allowed on their terms only, seems like you are saying Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #17

Sure Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #23

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Sep 2017 #13

this is incorrect. unblock Sep 2017 #18

So you can be forced to participate in politics, you are forced to show respect to and during Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #21

generally speaking the job is whatever the employer says it is. unblock Sep 2017 #24

The job is whatever they say it is, more or less Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #30

That is not true, especially your second paragraph. George II Sep 2017 #33

Sure it is Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #38

If they decided that I believe they would have to put it in writing as a condition of employment. George II Sep 2017 #39

Nope. Most jobs are at-will. Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #41

We can also sneak in the end of "right to work" in must-pass legislation meow2u3 Sep 2017 #42

Alone in a room or a public display in front of customers? Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #6

Only a couple of states (California and New York, for example) have laws preventing firing... PoliticAverse Sep 2017 #27

Not if it doesn't interfere with their work or the work of fellow employees. George II Sep 2017 #32

Uhh, yeah, they can. They can dismiss you because they think gingers have no soul, or because.. X_Digger Sep 2017 #35

Not true at all Lee-Lee Sep 2017 #37

Free speech rights protect your rights from infringement by agents of the governemnt. JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #5

I understand that. My argument is that they are acting in congruence with and as an agent for the Augiedog Sep 2017 #19

Said otherwise, "NASCAR agrees with Trump and I don't like Trump, so screw NASCAR employer rights" JoeStuckInOH Sep 2017 #22

So it's like Nazi Germany, no different. SummerSnow Sep 2017 #9

nascar statement.... spanone Sep 2017 #20

People are fired for off the job activities as well MichMan Sep 2017 #25

Yes indeed. cwydro Sep 2017 #40

By the way, NASCAR has very few employees MichMan Sep 2017 #26

Interesting discussion, but..... VMA131Marine Sep 2017 #28

Sure they could bar an individual driver MichMan Sep 2017 #31

Thats a solid argument... brooklynite Sep 2017 #29

The first amendment is a protection from government interference, nothing more. X_Digger Sep 2017 #34

I love nascar and that pisses me off SonofDonald Sep 2017 #36