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35. Both Sanders & Klobuchar missed major opporunities to kneecap Repub lies and bullshit
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:52 AM
Sep 2017

I missed the closing statements bkz my recording stopped at the 1.5 hour mark, but i found the Democratic "team' frustrating in their lack of energy shutting these clowns and the Repub lies down.

First off, one of the repubs opened with bragging that their bill would stop not only the individual Mandate BUT THE EMPLOYER MANDATE.Crickets from the Dem side, they should yave jumped all over this. Screamed from the rafters that this crap bill effects everybody, not just Medicaid & private market. EVERYBODY who has Employer provided insurance is threatened too, bkz their employers can now opt out or, if they stay in, just sewer shop for coverage since essential benefits mandate of Obamacare would be overturned. Republicans have done a masterful job making Americans think this only applies to a sliver of the population ; it effects everybody cradle to grave.

The two major points that Cassidy and Graham kept repeating ad nauseum were that Obamacare has failed,is "imploding," and that state governments are more responsive and compassionate to delivering healthcare than "bureaucrats" in Washington:

Neither K nor S mentioned that Obamacare is struggling because of the dugin sabotage of the Republicans, starting with (Rubio's assault) renegging on risk corridor payments and stretching all the way to just out and out refusing to make even minor changes to improve the ACA, especially easy fixes like graduating the income cliff where subsidies for the middle class end. Even the CBO has stated that Obamacare's not failing, it is being rigged and destabilized by the Republicans. As comdians have said, if the toilet in your house doesn't work, you don't torch the whole house.

As far as the Repub "states rights" argument, neither Klobuchar nor Sanders said flat out that (19?) Republican controlled states flat out refused to give their (supposedly beloved citizens the free federally funded Medicaid Expansion. They flat out refused to take money to give millions of their own Americans heathcare. Why would anyone Ever,Ever trust a Republican state that has demonstrated this level of contempt for their citizens to knowledgeably much less humanely deliver healthcare?
BTW didn't Brownbach even try to divert medicaid funds to plug up sinking "supply side" government?

This debate was really frustrating to me. Americans simply do not understand what Republicans have done and what they plan to do...which is a disaster for everyone. There was such low hanging fruit, like the "$39,000" family bill, which is probably on a combined income of $400,000., so still less thabn 10% But there was also a failure of our team here to actually educate and inform and shut down once and for all this Repubs agenda to take healthcare away from the many to give hundreds of billions in tax breaks to the few, i.e. their uber wealthy funders like the Koch Bros.

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Yes, he does. Graham is no better. Hieronymus Sep 2017 #1
Cassidys eyes rhiannon55 Sep 2017 #2
Yeah. Has that Creepy Uncle look to him n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #31
Thought the same thing... actually reminds me of one of my wife's uncles. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #36
I see Count Olaf from Lenony Snickets MattP Sep 2017 #3
Dead. Bwahahaha Turn CO Blue Sep 2017 #15
OMG you are right. susanna Sep 2017 #29
It was really gross of him to bring up Charlie Gard. n/t demmiblue Sep 2017 #4
And he kept talking about people paying 39k premiums...if that really happened... brush Sep 2017 #32
All they have are lies. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #37
The way he used kimmel's story of his son shows what scum he is JI7 Sep 2017 #5
He looks like a hawk. applegrove Sep 2017 #6
Yeah, that's IT! Perfect! Or a bald eagle due to the white hair. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #8
And he keep repeating one very rich family who spends $39,000 a year applegrove Sep 2017 #11
I mentioned that little fact to my sister (she is 57) a few months ago. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #20
I'm so sorry. But it looks like the GOP healthcare bill is toast. applegrove Sep 2017 #22
I am keeping my fingers crossed and calling/crying 13 senators again tomorrow BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #23
You are a great patriot. applegrove Sep 2017 #24
I think I am basically just plain desperate more than anything. BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #25
Not only that, but with Medicaid gone, which it will be susanna Sep 2017 #30
I think we are seeing the impact of cutting investments in education All these many years. MLAA Sep 2017 #34
I think we are, yes. susanna Sep 2017 #44
In my opinion he just doesn't care. Lindsey isn't stupid. He just doesn't care. MLAA Sep 2017 #33
Wonder if he has a band around his ankle with a tracking number/device. MLAA Sep 2017 #26
Kinda like a chicken's ass if you want my opinion. davsand Sep 2017 #21
So far I see... Cassidy and Graham lying their asses off ecstatic Sep 2017 #7
And then of course there are the many people on here Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2017 #14
Exactly !!! mucifer Sep 2017 #17
Bingo... pangaia Sep 2017 #27
That he's a doctor and goes against every medical association .. Hieronymus Sep 2017 #9
Here's him---"Ima doctor, Ima doctor, Ima doctor." Braaawk! sprinkleeninow Sep 2017 #38
Most redumbliCONs are demonic. democratisphere Sep 2017 #10
Sen. Bernie Sanders and Sen. Amy Klobuchar are doing great! aikoaiko Sep 2017 #12
Cassidy is a f'ing nut. demmiblue Sep 2017 #13
Now talking about Planned Parenthood. demmiblue Sep 2017 #16
Sen. Klobuchar brought it... demmiblue Sep 2017 #19
Planned Parenthood selling off body parts Madam Mossfern Sep 2017 #18
Sen K and S came across as compassionate. I doubt they changed one white winger's mind, however. Hoyt Sep 2017 #28
Both Sanders & Klobuchar missed major opporunities to kneecap Repub lies and bullshit stuffmatters Sep 2017 #35
Great post, good info in there about the mandate, cruel red state govs, and how the repugs are... brush Sep 2017 #41
Racially tinged BS anecdotal crap. Ninsianna Sep 2017 #39
I watched... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #40
Good exposure for Klobuchar though, she came off as informed, knowledgeable and caring brush Sep 2017 #42
I agree... Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #43
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