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Deep13

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22. Me too. But I do support banning corporate money for books.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jul 2012

You are being disingenuous--and frankly I think you only asked about books to set me up for that little dishonest gem. No one is talking about banning books or any other form of expression. We are talking about money. Congress has the power to regulate commerce. Publishing a book is protected press under the 1st Amendment. Paying millions of dollars to lie to the public is not. Corporations do not write books. Only humans can do that. No one can be punished for writing or publishing. But corporations should be prohibited from buying elections. Have you forgotten that? Has your preoccupation with this false reading of the 1st Am. What about the rights of the 100s of millions of Americans who do not own TV networks or newspapers? Citizens United essentially says the 1st Am. only applies to the super rich. I would like the voices of ordinary people not to be drowned out by corporate cash. The Constitution gives us a right to some degree of democracy too, you know. Since when is the 1st Am. supposed to be the mechanism for killing that democracy rather than preserving it?

Your reading of the 1st Am. is elitist and undemocratic because it builds a wealth advantage into the Constitution to the exclusion of everyone else. Wake up.

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TAX contributions over five thousand dollars at the fifteen percent rate. MADem Jul 2012 #1
It's illegal for corporations to make campaign contributions in Federal elections, Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #10
I'm talking about PAC money, individual money, money from any legal resource. MADem Jul 2012 #24
I'm for public financing of elections, with no other monetary sources. Deep13 Jul 2012 #2
Full campaign finance reform. n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #3
+1 Scuba Jul 2012 #4
Would you allow a corporation to publish a book that criticized an election candidate Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #5
Yes ProSense Jul 2012 #6
So you're OK with a corporation spending a billion dollars to send a book to every voter Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #7
Yeah, ProSense Jul 2012 #8
How about cable TV? On-demand? Satellite? Youtube channels? Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #9
Are you being obtuse? ProSense Jul 2012 #11
Actually I didn't. So I Googled it. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #12
Good ProSense Jul 2012 #14
My feeling is that if the book is published in the usual way... Deep13 Jul 2012 #19
I prefer the full disclosure route to the book-banning route (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #21
Me too. But I do support banning corporate money for books. Deep13 Jul 2012 #22
Ordinary people can pool their resources with other like-minded folk. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #23
I have the same position as the ACLU on this. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #13
Honestly, that's why I no longer support the ACLU. Deep13 Jul 2012 #20
Interesting that we have one poster who totally support Citizens United. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #15
Here's the ACLU's explanation of why they support it. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #16
I know they did - And it's one of the few times when I have not been happy with the ACLU. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #17
Here's a ProSense Jul 2012 #18
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