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pipoman

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43. I have never once said,

Tue Jul 17, 2012, 03:46 PM

Jul 2012

"that the prosecution doesn't have the evidence to convict Zimmerman". It is the wishful thinkers who believe this (or any criminal case for that matter) is a slamdunk for the prosecution, or that the raw investigative data reported on by the media is beyond reproach who are wrong. Whether he is convicted or not doesn't matter to me...hopefully justice is done, it isn't always. By the time this goes to trial you will barely recognize the 300 pages you've read...by then there will be thousands of pages released in discovery.

Ultimately we'll see what happens. If the case had Las Vegas odds, I would bet it's even money at this point...could go either way. Until then, we'll agree to disagree.

BTW...you know nothing about me, quit pretending that you do.

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Interesting development (or maybe not): Zimmerman implicated in molestation of younger relative [View all] TalkingDog Jul 2012 OP

He is an ugly representation OverseaVisitor Jul 2012 #1

I don't understand how this is connected to the trial for the murder of Trayvon Martin. enough Jul 2012 #2

I don't think the allegations have anything to do with the murder charge. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #3

Much of the prosecution's case seems to be based on impugning Zimmerman's character slackmaster Jul 2012 #17

Well it certainly points to a personality that will abuse others....and children??? You for real? SugarShack Jul 2012 #52

Sociopath, mzmolly Jul 2012 #4

Geez really? pipoman Jul 2012 #5

The witness contacted authorities to tell them Zimmerman was racist csziggy Jul 2012 #7

But when asked about it, she didn't provide any examples of how Zimmerman supposedly was LisaL Jul 2012 #10

She gave an example of how the entire Zimmerman family was racist csziggy Jul 2012 #28

What example? Do tell. LisaL Jul 2012 #35

It's in the article linked in the OP csziggy Jul 2012 #49

One of the first things a criminal investigator pipoman Jul 2012 #12

You could be right - I was just bringing up her original motivation csziggy Jul 2012 #27

...until he was 18. mzmolly Jul 2012 #11

This, assuming it is true, wouldn't prove any of those things... pipoman Jul 2012 #13

Yes it mzmolly Jul 2012 #14

OK, I read it.. pipoman Jul 2012 #15

I also doubt that it is admissible. mzmolly Jul 2012 #16

I am not defending him or what he did or didn't do.. pipoman Jul 2012 #19

Regarding the microscope you speak of ... mzmolly Jul 2012 #20

You nor I know, pipoman Jul 2012 #22

"Think about the police interviewing every person you have ever known and asking them questions..." mzmolly Jul 2012 #29

No, first a prosecutor will determine the significance.. pipoman Jul 2012 #32

The prosecution released the information mzmolly Jul 2012 #36

You are not understanding anything I am saying correctly.. pipoman Jul 2012 #38

If you're going to discuss a case, with such zest, mzmolly Jul 2012 #41

I have never once said, pipoman Jul 2012 #43

You know nothing about me mzmolly Jul 2012 #47

"When someone is in their 30's, nothing that they did while a juvenile really says anything ... mzmolly Jul 2012 #21

Now he has a Psychiatric Disorder? pipoman Jul 2012 #33

Let me refer you back to your dismissive statement. mzmolly Jul 2012 #37

This is contrary...completely with antisocial behavior.. pipoman Jul 2012 #39

No, it isn't contrary. mzmolly Jul 2012 #40

I didn't say anti-social can't act...they are great actors pipoman Jul 2012 #45

So you think the witness had warm feelings mzmolly Jul 2012 #46

Go back and read what was written..nobody would read that pipoman Jul 2012 #56

What mzmolly Jul 2012 #58

You didn't go back and read pipoman Jul 2012 #60

I read the quote mzmolly Jul 2012 #61

I've seen people here bend themselves into knots defend this racist thug, Occulus Jul 2012 #25

We all develop our beliefs from our life's experience.. pipoman Jul 2012 #26

As a criminal investigator mzmolly Jul 2012 #30

It depends if I am trying to pipoman Jul 2012 #31

Regardless, mzmolly Jul 2012 #34

Are you meaning only "legally" that nothing a person did as a juvi says anything about them... uppityperson Jul 2012 #54

No, in court.. pipoman Jul 2012 #55

Thank you. Seems many DUers are meaning in real life which is different as in real life of course uppityperson Jul 2012 #57

I completely agree pipoman Jul 2012 #59

Though, if you are having fun snarking back and forth up there, have at it. uppityperson Jul 2012 #62

Sometimes I do enjoy it.. pipoman Jul 2012 #63

For the record, mzmolly Jul 2012 #64

For the record, I am capable of reading all the replies in this thread but thank you for trying to uppityperson Jul 2012 #65

Sure. mzmolly Jul 2012 #66

Oh, I read them all. Just came to a different conclusion after clarifying a few things. uppityperson Jul 2012 #67

I said above that I didn't feel the accusations were admissible in a court of law. mzmolly Jul 2012 #68

Which is why I asked and clarified. I was ready to jump his shit, but clarified and understand uppityperson Jul 2012 #69

Ahh. mzmolly Jul 2012 #70

B mzmolly Jul 2012 #48

Is this even admissible at trial? longship Jul 2012 #6

No, I don't think it's admissible at trial. LisaL Jul 2012 #8

I don't think it will even come up in a trial. I only posted it because it may speak TalkingDog Jul 2012 #9

Probably not, but the defense will have to explicitly move for it to be ruled as inadmissable slackmaster Jul 2012 #18

Both Lisabeth Salander and Nils Bjurman would object to the tattoo argument. longship Jul 2012 #23

Trying to taint the jury pool, perhaps? (n/t) Seeking Serenity Jul 2012 #24

Gathering evidence and releasing it mzmolly Jul 2012 #42

good point, they're trying to protect him from the beginning, when he ignored law enforcement SugarShack Jul 2012 #53

Looks kind of like a smear campaign ... OneTenthofOnePercent Jul 2012 #44

Connections? mzmolly Jul 2012 #50

More proof needed, however... liberalmuse Jul 2012 #51