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Showing Original Post only (View all)What would LBJ do to pass health care reform? [View all]
Since Bernie Sanders invoked LBJ's passage of Medicare and Medicaid in his OpEd, lets take a closer look at LBJ.
One of his aides put together this list in 2009, when the ACA was being developed:
He would have a willingness to horse-trade with every member.
He would keep a list of people who support each member financially. A call to each to tell them to get the vote of that representative.
He would have Billy Graham calling Baptists, Cardinal Cushing calling Catholics, Dr. Martin Luther King calling blacks, Henry Gonzales calling Hispanics, Henry Ford and David Rockefeller calling Republicans.
He would get Jack Valenti to call the Pope if it would help.
He would have speeches written for members for the Congressional Record and hometown newspapers.
He would use up White House liquor having nightcaps with the leaders and key members of BOTH parties.
Each of them would take home cufflinks, watches, signed photos, and perhaps even a pledge to come raise money for their next election.
He would keep a list of people who support each member financially. A call to each to tell them to get the vote of that representative.
He would have Billy Graham calling Baptists, Cardinal Cushing calling Catholics, Dr. Martin Luther King calling blacks, Henry Gonzales calling Hispanics, Henry Ford and David Rockefeller calling Republicans.
He would get Jack Valenti to call the Pope if it would help.
He would have speeches written for members for the Congressional Record and hometown newspapers.
He would use up White House liquor having nightcaps with the leaders and key members of BOTH parties.
Each of them would take home cufflinks, watches, signed photos, and perhaps even a pledge to come raise money for their next election.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/24/johnson.lbj.health.care/index.html
Note - he worked with people - he didn't alienate those who disagreed with him. He didn't just dismiss anyone who wasn't on board, or had questions as corrupt. He didn't assume people were not on board with the plan "hated him."
He got it done because "compromise" wasn't a dirty word to him.
He did, however lie about what it would cost, because he knew it wouldn't pass if he was upfront about it. That can't be done today, now that we have the CBO.
Johnson maneuvered every step of the way getting this bill through Congress, and one of the things he did and this is a little dicey in today's climate was suppress the costs. So this young kid gets elected from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy, in 1962, and Johnson is explaining to him [over the phone] how you get a health bill through. And what he tells him is don't let them get the costs projected too far out because it will scare other people:
We believe, after looking at the evidence, my co-author [David Blumenthal] and I, that if the true cost of Medicare had been known if Johnson hadn't basically hidden them the program would never have passed. America's second-most beloved program would never have happened, if we had had genuine cost estimates.
"A health program yesterday runs $300 million, but the fools had to go to projecting it down the road five or six years, and when you project it the first year, it runs $900 million. Now I don't know whether I would approve $900 million second year or not. I might approve 450 or 500. But the first thing Dick Russell comes running in saying, 'My God, you've got a billion-dollar program for next year on health, therefore I'm against any of it now.' Do you follow me?"
We believe, after looking at the evidence, my co-author [David Blumenthal] and I, that if the true cost of Medicare had been known if Johnson hadn't basically hidden them the program would never have passed. America's second-most beloved program would never have happened, if we had had genuine cost estimates.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112234240
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There's a lot that can be said about Johnson, some good, some bad, but he knew how Congress worked
Arkansas Granny
Sep 2017
#2
Um... Yes, Medicare and Medicaid would not have been passed if he had not lied about the costs.
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#9
You said that you thought that people weren't paying attention to the CBO numbers
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#66
So "unimportant" that theCBO number of uninsured by 2020 were included in the headlines?
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#68
In the case of Johnson, I think it was more a matter of hiding the truth than outright lying.
George II
Sep 2017
#12
One would have to have known those other politicians to know what skeletons there were
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#11
It requires relationship building, not simply yelling and dominating the conversation.
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#20
Politicians who show distain of actual politic-ing aren't usually very effective at the job.
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#7
Yes. Compromise and finding common ground is key. For the life of me, I'll NEVER understand...
NurseJackie
Sep 2017
#16
Sounds like Sanders needs to get elected President and use that power to get things done.
jalan48
Sep 2017
#24
We're back to LBJ being Majority leader of the Senate-a position of power which Sanders does not
jalan48
Sep 2017
#34
Not really. You're ignoring the power relationships going on in your comparison.
jalan48
Sep 2017
#43
You are bending over backwards to avoid the question in any way you can think of.
ehrnst
Sep 2017
#44
the realities of politics, this is why experience is important..this is how you get shit done.
JHan
Sep 2017
#49
At least LBJ ended up wracked with guilt such that he wouldn't run for re-election.
WinkyDink
Sep 2017
#62