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Ken Burch

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7. No. The point is that we need BOTH, and to be working on both at once.

Wed Sep 27, 2017, 03:29 PM

Sep 2017

It's not possible to achieve economic justice if we have to wait to work on that until every single form of social injustice has first been vanquished.

And it's not possible to achieve social justice in isolation from economic justice-market values will always end up working to prevent the end of social injustice, because the system needs some social injustice and some bigotry to keep us all from uniting against it. That is the lesson of the Sixties.

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We don't have to choose BETWEEN addressing voter suppression or being more progressive on economics. [View all] Ken Burch Sep 2017 OP

We should stop ignoring it when talking about "What Happened" bettyellen Sep 2017 #1

I don't know of anybody on the Left who IS ignoring it. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #5

"without needing to make any significant changes to what we stand for. " Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #12

I'm not attacking Clinton-we don't need to pretend nothing needs to change to show respect to her. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #14

It's exactly what you did with this sentence. A sentence that holds no basis in reality. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #17

Not back away from...improve, add to a bit. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #18

Just what the Fuck does that mean? GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #35

Don't talk to me like I'm NOT a Dem. I liked most of the platform. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #36

My response was a little caustic and I apologize GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #37

Thank you for that. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #38

I like what we stand for. The Citizen United thing has to be reversed by the SC.... bettyellen Sep 2017 #13

Another classic. Who EVER said we need to choose between those two, Ken? Squinch Sep 2017 #2

That's what a lot of the people who keep saying "it was voter suppression" are essentially arguing. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #6

No. It really isn't. People who point out the existence of voter suppression are Squinch Sep 2017 #19

Everybody on the Left AGREES that there is voter suppression, though. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #24

No one has ever said we need to choose between fighting voter suppression and Squinch Sep 2017 #25

OK...then why, on virtually every occasion... Ken Burch Sep 2017 #30

I'm struggling to imagine a society that Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #3

No. The point is that we need BOTH, and to be working on both at once. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #7

That was my point. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #9

That's been my point the whole time...prior to 2016 Ken Burch Sep 2017 #15

Unless you are being shot 6 times for jaywalking. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #26

It remains inseparable from economic justice. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #27

I tried, never mind. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #28

Yes you tried and failed. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #29

We all agree that that is top of the priority list. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #31

Only one group has stated one can happen without the other. nt. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #11

Where The Eff do you get this crap? This is so not a thing. Are you trying to make it a thing? (n/t) FreepFryer Sep 2017 #4

Wait a minute!!!!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Sep 2017 #8

Nope. That's nothing like what he's saying. Squinch Sep 2017 #20

It is what Burch is saying applied to a specific issue. eom guillaumeb Sep 2017 #22

Why is the choice between those two. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #10

That's the opposite of what I'm saying Ken Burch Sep 2017 #16

But it obviously has not been accepted. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #21

Then your words are extremely unclear. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #23

What I favor is justice...for those who face injustice(s) and for all who need change from below. Ken Burch Sep 2017 #32

Thank you! I've been saying the same for awhile now! lovemydogs Sep 2017 #33

Sorry on double post. I think too many equate economic justice with old white repub men lovemydogs Sep 2017 #34