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DFW

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18. The limits must have gone way up in recent years
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 04:22 PM
Sep 2017

My parent's estate wasn't anything like $5 million, but we had to pay half on a lot of it. We couldn't even afford to keep their house. This was back in 2002. There was an abstract painting from my grandmother's collection that I had always liked, and it got appraised at $40,000, and I had to pay $20,000 to keep it in the family (I gulped, but I did). She had liked and supported living modern artists in the 1950s up to her death in 1966.

By the way, when my grandmother died in 1966, all the grandchildren got to say what they wanted kept in the family if they liked something in particular. There was a 50% inheritance tax on all of it. That abstract painting I liked was only assessed at $600 as the artist was still alive, so my parents could swing it. My cousin liked a small bronze sculpture by a Swiss artist, but the Swiss guy had died the year before, and the sculpture was appraised at $16,000. His parents, with 5 children at the time, couldn't afford the $8000 they would have had to pay to keep the sculpture in the family, so it got put up for auction in 1967, where it brought $25,000 at the time. I was 15, and my cousin was 17. Fast forward 40 years, and my grandmother's bronze sculpture came up again for auction in New York. Her name was listed in the catalog as the provenance. It brought $4 million. I'm sure my cousin was thrilled.

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The "Death Tax" con job [View all] SHRED Sep 2017 OP
He's being cheered for this repeal idea by people without a pot to piss in flamingdem Sep 2017 #1
The only people that go to his speeches Turbineguy Sep 2017 #2
That's because the repubs call it a "death tax".... CatMor Sep 2017 #3
All they have to do is see the numbers flamingdem Sep 2017 #5
how many will even earn $5 million in their lifetimes?? Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #8
If they've worked for 40/45 years, they might well make a liitle over $2 million.... haele Sep 2017 #27
They've been calling it a death tax for at least two decades now. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #15
Republicans say if you tax it you get less of it. So death tax sounds good to me. Cicada Sep 2017 #30
$5 billion deduction for the Dotard safeinOhio Sep 2017 #4
the whole idea that you should be able to transfer money tax-free is ridiculous. unblock Sep 2017 #6
In addition to the yearly gifts, there are large block lifetime gifts csziggy Sep 2017 #21
Anything over the 14,000 threshold Sgent Sep 2017 #28
Some people do plan ahead - but as mentioned in another post on this thread csziggy Sep 2017 #31
How can people be so ignorant? procon Sep 2017 #7
Yep,those Rich Farmers Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #9
I read some years back PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #16
This has been a Republican Red Herring Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #17
Yes. The rich have access to some pretty good attornies. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #19
That ended with the Nixon Adminastraton. Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #20
Walmart greeters and convenience store clerks who work hard, do honorable work, are VERY Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #10
We should reframe the estate tax as the brat tax meow2u3 Sep 2017 #11
+ csziggy Sep 2017 #22
And repealing the Federal Estate tax does absolutely nothing about the State Estate tax MiniMe Sep 2017 #12
Yeah, but a lot of the Republican run states have eliminated estate taxes csziggy Sep 2017 #23
Calling it "the death tax" makes it sound as if it affects every family. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #13
Ah.... those deductions and credits! SouthernLiberal Sep 2017 #14
The limits must have gone way up in recent years DFW Sep 2017 #18
They have. In 2002, Federal estate taxes were up to 50% on amounts over $1M. Thor_MN Sep 2017 #24
In 2002 an estate was taxed at 50% for the amount above $1 million csziggy Sep 2017 #25
The estate tax is not a death tax Gothmog Sep 2017 #26
I have to counsel clients on the non-applicability of the estate tax Mr. Ected Sep 2017 #29
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