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csziggy

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25. In 2002 an estate was taxed at 50% for the amount above $1 million
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 06:16 PM
Sep 2017

This chart will be messed up, but it gives an idea of the historic rates since 2000:

Year .... Exclusion...Max/Top
................Amount ....tax rate
2001 $675,000 55%
2002 $1 million 50%
2003 $1 million 49%
2004 $1.5 million 48%
2005 $1.5 million 47%
2006 $2 million 46%
2007 $2 million 45%
2008 $2 million 45%
2009 $3.5 million 45%
2010 Repealed
2011 $5 million 35%
2012 $5.12 million 35%
2013 $5.25 million[28] 40%
2014 $5.34 million[29] 40%
2015 $5.43 million[30] 40%
2016 $5.45 million[5] 40%
2017 $5.49 million 40%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estate_tax_in_the_United_States#Exemptions_and_tax_rates


When my grandmother died in 1969 estate taxes were much higher than in the last couple of decades. There was a sort of scam that was perpetuated, at least in my little home town. The guy that did most estate appraisals for most of the well to do white people called all furniture "used junk furniture," artwork and paintings were "decor items," and other personal possessions were just "old clothes and costume jewelry." The only jewelry that was appraised by an expert were the few items that she designated in her will. Real estate also had to be professionally appraised and taxed accordingly.

Antique furniture that had been in the family for 200 years was valued at junk store prices. Original paintings were priced as though they were the commercially printed reproductions given away at the grocery store. My grandmother's fur coat was valued as if it were a wool coat from Goodwill.

He would have valued your grandmother's artwork as "decor items" and priced them as if they came from the five & dime!

Even as a teenager I could see this was a scam to keep the government from getting more taxes. But given situations like your family's back then, I don't really blame the man - he'd known my grandmother and grandfather since they moved to Florida in 1925. Many of the other families he performed the same service for he'd known all his life. He considered it a favor for friends so they could keep the families possessions together.
The "Death Tax" con job [View all] SHRED Sep 2017 OP
He's being cheered for this repeal idea by people without a pot to piss in flamingdem Sep 2017 #1
The only people that go to his speeches Turbineguy Sep 2017 #2
That's because the repubs call it a "death tax".... CatMor Sep 2017 #3
All they have to do is see the numbers flamingdem Sep 2017 #5
how many will even earn $5 million in their lifetimes?? Angry Dragon Sep 2017 #8
If they've worked for 40/45 years, they might well make a liitle over $2 million.... haele Sep 2017 #27
They've been calling it a death tax for at least two decades now. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #15
Republicans say if you tax it you get less of it. So death tax sounds good to me. Cicada Sep 2017 #30
$5 billion deduction for the Dotard safeinOhio Sep 2017 #4
the whole idea that you should be able to transfer money tax-free is ridiculous. unblock Sep 2017 #6
In addition to the yearly gifts, there are large block lifetime gifts csziggy Sep 2017 #21
Anything over the 14,000 threshold Sgent Sep 2017 #28
Some people do plan ahead - but as mentioned in another post on this thread csziggy Sep 2017 #31
How can people be so ignorant? procon Sep 2017 #7
Yep,those Rich Farmers Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #9
I read some years back PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #16
This has been a Republican Red Herring Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #17
Yes. The rich have access to some pretty good attornies. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #19
That ended with the Nixon Adminastraton. Wellstone ruled Sep 2017 #20
Walmart greeters and convenience store clerks who work hard, do honorable work, are VERY Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #10
We should reframe the estate tax as the brat tax meow2u3 Sep 2017 #11
+ csziggy Sep 2017 #22
And repealing the Federal Estate tax does absolutely nothing about the State Estate tax MiniMe Sep 2017 #12
Yeah, but a lot of the Republican run states have eliminated estate taxes csziggy Sep 2017 #23
Calling it "the death tax" makes it sound as if it affects every family. guillaumeb Sep 2017 #13
Ah.... those deductions and credits! SouthernLiberal Sep 2017 #14
The limits must have gone way up in recent years DFW Sep 2017 #18
They have. In 2002, Federal estate taxes were up to 50% on amounts over $1M. Thor_MN Sep 2017 #24
In 2002 an estate was taxed at 50% for the amount above $1 million csziggy Sep 2017 #25
The estate tax is not a death tax Gothmog Sep 2017 #26
I have to counsel clients on the non-applicability of the estate tax Mr. Ected Sep 2017 #29
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