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11. We don't "need" to do so, whether to an inanimate . . .
Wed Sep 27, 2017, 08:30 PM
Sep 2017

. . . or an animate object. To my mind, at least, the very notion of a making a unilateral, unenforceable "pledge" to anything is a pointless, indeed, silly exercise. Reciting one's marriage vows; taking an oath of office to "defend the Constitution," or whatnot, in assuming an office that requires such an oath; or swearing in court before giving testimony are meaningful acts insofar as they constitute a public acknowledgement of the change of status, or the attachment of real conditions, that are associated with one's making such a pledge, along with an acknowledgement that consequences can follow the violation of that pledge.

But "pledging allegiance" to the flag, or anything else, where the pledge itself is not in any real way binding, and to which no consequences attach, is a meaningless gesture, akin to some teenager telling another teenager that he/she will love the other "til the end of time" or whatever. Empty words. What's the point?

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Better than having to pledge it to Twitler I suppose. nt rzemanfl Sep 2017 #1
. . . and to the Republic for which it stands . . . . nt marybourg Sep 2017 #2
One nation, indivisible... defacto7 Sep 2017 #5
with liberty and justice for all ?!?!? ri-i-ight. fierywoman Sep 2017 #17
It is like religion, basically mind control for the weak Not Ruth Sep 2017 #3
Yup, so we are confirming we are all part of the same club mitch96 Sep 2017 #9
We don't have to; the Supreme Court has already said so. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #4
This sort of shit goes all the way back to the days of Caesar. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #6
Senseless repetition, programming, setting allegiance defacto7 Sep 2017 #7
Germans never sing their anthem at sports events unless at an International Sporting event mchill Sep 2017 #8
I will pledge allegiance to WheelWalker Sep 2017 #10
I like your idea very much. fierywoman Sep 2017 #18
Im with you. bluepen Sep 2017 #20
We don't "need" to do so, whether to an inanimate . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Sep 2017 #11
Why do we swear an oath? Not Ruth Sep 2017 #12
Because we love us some symbolism Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2017 #13
Words do not mean anything, at least not compared to actions, so get rid of the words Not Ruth Sep 2017 #14
I can't remember the last time... Thor_MN Sep 2017 #15
At the very least, I hope this latest Anthem controversy causes us to reevaluate the necessity jcmaine72 Sep 2017 #16
It also breaks a 10 commandment. Idolatry and all.. but ecstatic Sep 2017 #19
The pledge was invented by a socialist in the late 19th century. longship Sep 2017 #21
It's as wacky Igel Sep 2017 #22
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