Hugh Hefner was the ultimate enemy of women no feminist anywhere will shed a tear at his death

[Atman]

133. I think the key words are "have to."

Her family was not broke. She was a top student, probably could have (or did) get some scholarships. But when recruiters came to town she said "why not?" We lived in a beach town, it was late '70s. We all grew up practically naked anyway, wore bathing suits to school, modesty was not a big deal. She was already known as a local beauty, why not see what happens?

I totally understand what you're saying, and the overall tone of the thread. But I think what is missing is the underlying message that we're all different, we're all our own selves, and we all look at life from varying perspectives. I know people who won't walk across their own house naked. What kind of shame brings that on? I don't see it as an exploitation thing, because it is timeless. Fine art from as far back as history reaches features nude figures, both men and women. Some sexual, some pornographic, some artistic. It's who we are.

From the Playboy perspective, I celebrate the magazine. Each issue had maybe 16 pages of partially clad women amidst 150 pages of politics, opinion, news, pop culture, cartoons, satire, and literature. Yeah, literature. Some of the finest authors ever in print. Hefner was an iconoclast, a ground breaker, a visionary. Back in the day, when I subscribed, I had to wait a day or two to get my hands on the latest issue because my wife always got it first and read it cover to cover. Maybe she looked at the pictures, too.

Just sayin', I think Hefner gets a bad rap by many who don't really know the story. Check out the Amazon series about Playboy. It's a good look at the so-called empire.