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ExciteBike66

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70. Possibly true, but irrelevant.

Fri Sep 29, 2017, 12:04 PM

Sep 2017

Logically, both FDR and Dr. Seuss could have actually done what Trump is trying to do today.

That said, I doubt Trump would lock up all Muslim Americans in one area merely because they might be spies (which is what FDR actually did to the Japanese). Part of the reason I doubt Trump would do that is the fact that FDR's actions are not seen in a positive light these days.

On the other hand, Dr. Seuss was merely an anti-American propagandist, something that Trump actually is already. Thus, my response to you is that at this point in time you are wrong; Trump is more like Seuss than FDR.

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Racist propaganda: Librarian rejects Melania Trumps gift of Dr. Seuss books [View all] oberliner Sep 2017 OP

What an idiot joeybee12 Sep 2017 #1

Interesting. Turbineguy Sep 2017 #2

You can't be serious. B2G Sep 2017 #4

Fair enough. Turbineguy Sep 2017 #6

One fish two fish red fish blue fish Throck Sep 2017 #129

OMFG. nt B2G Sep 2017 #3

Wow shenmue Sep 2017 #5

Melania is receiving very poor guidance in her role as First Lady. Since English is not her firstt monmouth4 Sep 2017 #7

What is wrong with Dr. Seuss books?? nt B2G Sep 2017 #8

Exactly. This library is coming off, (IMO) as elitist/snobbery. Take the damn books and say thank monmouth4 Sep 2017 #10

I'm not a snob and I would have NOTHING to do with that racist cretin 6000eliot Sep 2017 #72

And that would be fine, if that's what the librarian did. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2017 #93

actually, that's not the reason that she gave for refusing the books fishwax Sep 2017 #127

Unbelievable. cwydro Sep 2017 #19

As long as the dark ones who sit in back do all the work jberryhill Sep 2017 #82

I always suspected sarisataka Sep 2017 #9

+1 B2G Sep 2017 #11

and "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" gopiscrap Sep 2017 #53

Perfect! +1 Adrahil Sep 2017 #95

LOL, that was funny as hell. ATL Ebony Sep 2017 #103

I have no clue what she's talking about! MoonRiver Sep 2017 #12

The reference is to WW2 propaganda cartoons, particularly anti-Japanese brooklynite Sep 2017 #14

1943 B2G Sep 2017 #15

...and before that he did commercial art for Flit... jberryhill Sep 2017 #38

Evidently the Obamas never saw those, huh? nt B2G Sep 2017 #42

I would have no idea jberryhill Sep 2017 #62

The books she cited were "If I Ran a Zoo" and "And to Think That I Saw It On Mulberry Street" oberliner Sep 2017 #16

Well it is banned book week! thinkingagain Sep 2017 #13

This librarian is making Melania Trump look good. Paladin Sep 2017 #17

Agree. It's idiotic. B2G Sep 2017 #18

Yes! mountain grammy Sep 2017 #29

Slightly off topic... demmiblue Sep 2017 #20

Her letter makes a lot of great points. It's also important for people to understand that their WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #21

Do you think Dr. Seuss is problematic? oberliner Sep 2017 #23

Sure. Some of his work uses racial caricatures that are behind the times for a modern classroom. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #27

Do you think any of his books ought to be read by students? oberliner Sep 2017 #46

The way you phrase it, I don't see it as an either/or. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #60

I appreciate your response oberliner Sep 2017 #64

She raises important points about things that we as a society are not very good at talking about. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #67

The library has an image of The Cat in the Hat on the wall oberliner Sep 2017 #69

Funny, I don't think it's odd at all. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #83

good point Whiskey.. JHan Sep 2017 #34

Thanks, and well said: WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #41

I couldn't put it better! +++ JHan Sep 2017 #49

Yes, I agree. A very fine letter. fishwax Sep 2017 #87

I applaud heaven05 Sep 2017 #22

They could have done so without calling Dr. Seuss racist oberliner Sep 2017 #24

I read him heaven05 Sep 2017 #30

Everyone is a product of their time - *warning - offensive* jberryhill Sep 2017 #40

What is your position on libraries carrying Dr. Seuss books? oberliner Sep 2017 #43

My "position on libraries carrying Dr. Seuss"? jberryhill Sep 2017 #59

It is preposterous to call Dr. Seuss racist oberliner Sep 2017 #63

Is this your thing? jberryhill Sep 2017 #71

Oh, I do have an opinion on one other thing jberryhill Sep 2017 #84

No need to be awestruck oberliner Sep 2017 #112

Did any other part of the letter make an impression on you? jberryhill Sep 2017 #113

she didn't call Dr. Seuss racist fishwax Sep 2017 #88

I read that book to my son almost nightly. Weekend Warrior Sep 2017 #25

She should be giving food, water and medicine to Puerto Rico leftstreet Sep 2017 #26

yep heaven05 Sep 2017 #32

They actually have all the food, water, and medicine that they need oberliner Sep 2017 #58

Very unfortunate. I don't have an answer. Racism and other nasty biases Hortensis Sep 2017 #28

I think it is important to clarify part of this issue ExciteBike66 Sep 2017 #31

Franklin Delano Roosevelt imprisoned Japanese-Americans in internment camps oberliner Sep 2017 #36

Possibly true, but irrelevant. ExciteBike66 Sep 2017 #70

I love Dr Seuss's stories but the illustrations TheDebbieDee Sep 2017 #33

Obama: 'Pretty much all the stuff you need to know is in Dr. Seuss' oberliner Sep 2017 #37

Is this all your Google search showed you? TheDebbieDee Sep 2017 #74

I try to back up my arguments with evidence oberliner Sep 2017 #76

I'm on my phone now but I will post links TheDebbieDee Sep 2017 #81

Horton, the early years.... jberryhill Sep 2017 #86

Here's a whole page full of the racist illustrations that were found in his earlier books... TheDebbieDee Sep 2017 #121

More on the librarian: demmiblue Sep 2017 #35

Interesting that she has an image of Obama on the wall behind her oberliner Sep 2017 #39

And? demmiblue Sep 2017 #45

Perhaps she can learn from the Obamas oberliner Sep 2017 #47

Lol... oh. n/t demmiblue Sep 2017 #48

According to the letter, the book sent was "Oh, The Places You'll Go" oberliner Sep 2017 #51

And? demmiblue Sep 2017 #54

And so her response to Dr. Seuss seems bizarre oberliner Sep 2017 #56

Most people are. demmiblue Sep 2017 #66

It just seems odd to me for her to go after Dr. Seuss in this way oberliner Sep 2017 #73

I don't care. n/t demmiblue Sep 2017 #75

Oh dear. This is awkward. grossproffit Sep 2017 #119

I know people who know her -- she is a treasure. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #44

Do you find her reaction here at all off-putting? oberliner Sep 2017 #57

No. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #61

Sorry - my other question above sort of duplicates this one oberliner Sep 2017 #65

No problem, answered them both! WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #68

Would they not accept To Kill A Mockingbird and Huckleberry Finn? edbermac Sep 2017 #50

Our Job In Japan struggle4progress Sep 2017 #52

I'm assuming you are not a fan of FDR oberliner Sep 2017 #55

We should view the world as accurately as we can, to gauge what we can accomplish struggle4progress Sep 2017 #79

I'm skeptical, despite the fact that it's a Washington Post story Blindingly apparent Sep 2017 #77

Here's the letter she posted on the subject oberliner Sep 2017 #78

Look at me! Look at me! I just dissed the First La-dee! n/t TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #102

The school library that doesn't have Seuss books is probably not going to be a school that spends WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #85

What do you get for the school that has everything? Why, The Cat in the Hat, of course fishwax Sep 2017 #90

Hee! Exactly. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #91

Ridiculous, but not all that surprising. bluepen Sep 2017 #80

Oh good lord. LEAVE SEUSS ALONE! Vinca Sep 2017 #89

What do we lose if we acknowledge our faves are problematic? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #92

We lose an opportunity to introduce children to a great writer oberliner Sep 2017 #97

Is he the only great writer who has written inspiring stories? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #99

No, there are many great writers oberliner Sep 2017 #110

I don't think Seuss is problematic. I think this is nuts. Vinca Sep 2017 #104

What, exactly, do you think is nuts? WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2017 #108

The notion a librarian would somehow think Seuss characters are unacceptable. Vinca Sep 2017 #117

I have to say this. This is why gives them stuff to beat us with. redstatebluegirl Sep 2017 #94

Agreed oberliner Sep 2017 #98

Yup. You have to choose your battles TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #100

That is the point, we can't be seen as banning books the first lady suggests. redstatebluegirl Sep 2017 #106

Yep. romanic Sep 2017 #122

Badly done, Liz! Badly done! califootman Sep 2017 #96

hmmmmm..... samnsara Sep 2017 #101

I was struck by the thoughtfulness of the letter NJCher Sep 2017 #105

The letter was neither thoughtful nor gracious oberliner Sep 2017 #107

urm NJCher Sep 2017 #109

Imagine if Michelle Obama had gifted a book to a school library oberliner Sep 2017 #111

first of all NJCher Sep 2017 #114

Thank you for your thoughtful and gracious response oberliner Sep 2017 #128

Thoughtful and gracious: Ms. Toad Sep 2017 #118

Apparently the school district wasn't too happy with her: EX500rider Sep 2017 #115

Breaking: Librarian once dressed up as the "Cat in the Hat" brooklynite Sep 2017 #116

*facepalm* romanic Sep 2017 #123

That's Catural Appropriation! Dr. Strange Sep 2017 #125

The proper response would have been 6000eliot Sep 2017 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author Raine Sep 2017 #124

Sorry, but I like Dr. Seuss. I have so many good memories of my mom PatrickforO Sep 2017 #126