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zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
31. I'm dubious
Fri Sep 29, 2017, 02:18 PM
Sep 2017

The vast majority of what goes on using web enabled technologies is just old techniques updated.
Fake news has always existed. We used to call it "gossip". I WWII they had "rumor officers" whose job was to debunk yesterday's rumors and collect today's. Hearst was infamously purported to have instructed a photographer, "you furnish the pictures, I'll furnish the war". He was Fox News before there was cable TV. Truth is, most of us "boomers" lived through the "golden age" of journalism. It was a rare time when much of journalism was considered "above" profit and seen as more of a "public service". It didn't last long. You can go back in time and find newspapers that included in their names "democrat" and "republican". That isn't by accident.

And you can find "collusion" in presidential politics at LEAST to Nixon. Truth is, Ike used the Korean war, and the negotiations at the time, to get elected.

The current technology has accelerated the rate of misinformation, but all that means is that the pace of correction/refutation/confrontation must increase. Campaigns and presidencies have been slow to learn this, but they will. Hillary, in her campaign against Obama, tried to warn him of what he was facing and he didn't listen. Strangely, Hillary wasn't sensitive to what the right would do to defeat her either.

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. LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #22
Hail, fellow rescuer! ehrnst Sep 2017 #10
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It's all about identity politics. zanana1 Sep 2017 #8
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The results of reduced funding in public k-12 education and unaffordable college tuition is MLAA Sep 2017 #15
I think it's a question of not caring BainsBane Sep 2017 #17
We are a militaristic society jayschool2013 Sep 2017 #18
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Russians are f*cking with us personally & individually. F*cking w you, your child, mother, father, Madam45for2923 Sep 2017 #20
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I hear ya! yallerdawg Sep 2017 #26
Our ability to critically think The Wizard Sep 2017 #25
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This! drmeow Sep 2017 #38
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I'm dubious zipplewrath Sep 2017 #31
it doesn't help when the media uses words like MEDDLING Skittles Sep 2017 #32
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Good point, but to the best of my knowledge, LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #34
Vulnerability to propaganda is one thing. GoCubsGo Sep 2017 #35
From Snopes: LuckyCharms Sep 2017 #36
Don't forget Google drmeow Sep 2017 #39
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