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46. One of the real tricks seems to be the hardest to learn

Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:26 AM

Oct 2017

And that is: don't treat every opposing view/questioning of posted information as a direct personal insult, even if it affects you as an insult to your intelligence.

We all come from different backgrounds (that was the whole idea, wasn't it?) with a general common cause. If someone thinks they have some fact they are sure of, and someone else thinks they are wrong, there are two ways to go about disagreeing. There is the "I heard differently/that has not been my experience, and here is how I see it" approach. Then there is the "no, you idiot, you have got your head stuck all the way up your ass, and I haven't got the time or the patience to set you straight" approach. If you have to ponder over which one stands a better chance of continued civil discussion, then I think you might be on the wrong site.

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I have been on DU for almost nine years now. [View all] MineralMan Oct 2017 OP

K&R stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #1

Thanks, MM. Skidmore Oct 2017 #2

Thank You for your service... Stuart G Oct 2017 #3

MineralMan, I have the same feelings about DU and those who were driven off because of some The Wielding Truth Oct 2017 #4

I've had DU friends driven away so hard that I've never seen them again, on any other Aristus Oct 2017 #5

"...vulnerable people or people with minority viewpoints are ganged up on..." Comatose Sphagetti Oct 2017 #6

I don't think your Shangri-La will be here. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #7

You may well be right, MineralMan Oct 2017 #8

Thanks. K&R TheBlackAdder Oct 2017 #9

I'm with you. Feel free to DM me if you need help. sharedvalues Oct 2017 #32

Same here! I've had a few posts hidden that seem positively innocous compared to others. LongTomH Oct 2017 #66

It needed to be said 🙂 MLAA Oct 2017 #10

Thank you for this.....I've felt it myself but held on. AJT Oct 2017 #11

thank you MineralMan.... chillfactor Oct 2017 #12

Awesome iamateacher Oct 2017 #13

Ditto malaise Oct 2017 #14

That's a rather charitable explanation of things mythology Oct 2017 #15

I'm not referring to any individual DUer in this post. MineralMan Oct 2017 #60

"people with minority viewpoints are ganged up" left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #16

Been there... can't tell you how many times. (Don't give em the satisfaction.) InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #19

Sad that this kind of stuff bdamomma Oct 2017 #20

Someone alerted me a few days ago bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #29

Was the alert voted up or down? n/t left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #56

Well, they deleted my post. haha bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #57

Bravenak and her pack did their best to drive me off riderinthestorm Oct 2017 #17

+1. pintobean Oct 2017 #24

"Stronger together". United is better than divided sharedvalues Oct 2017 #33

So that was only done by one person and one side. Thank you for your objectivity still_one Oct 2017 #35

Indeed, you can usually tell the trolls. Ninsianna Oct 2017 #38

Oh for gd's sake, you wrote in Bernie in the GE and as far as I've seen have expressed no regret. seaglass Oct 2017 #68

Thank you seaglass! I didn't see your post before I responded, but this says R B Garr Oct 2017 #71

Wow. Thanks for finding that, seaglass. George II Oct 2017 #73

They wrote in Bernie? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #92

Uh oh. Cat's out of the bag. betsuni Oct 2017 #93

Wow. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #95

As Skinner and EarlG have said, people who unrepentantly did not vote Hillary dont belong here stevenleser Oct 2017 #96

Oh ffs, I live in IL. HRC won here by double digits. I like Hillary riderinthestorm Oct 2017 #112

If you dont vote for Democratic nominees, youre not an ally. stevenleser Oct 2017 #113

I live in MA and it would be really easy for me to sit out a GE if it was all about me, it's not. seaglass Oct 2017 #115

You didn't vote for Hillary then you can go fuck yourself. tammywammy Oct 2017 #121

Don't even. You wrote in BS's name. I don't give a rat's ass what you think of Hillary. Squinch Oct 2017 #124

Well, you'll always have JPR. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #125

To that now PPRd poster, as the character of Eva Peron said in the musical Evita stevenleser Oct 2017 #128

Sorry to see you go riderinthestorm. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #130

I'm not sorry to see anyone go who feels comfortable at JPR. They are not allies. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #132

Everyone thinks their own purity test is OK. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #133

My test is simple. Did you vote for the one viable candidate in the GE against Trump stevenleser Oct 2017 #134

My point exactly. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #135

And mine as well. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #136

Let me guess. This started in 2015. R B Garr Oct 2017 #70

Are you saying that the forum moderators take $$ to reverse a Flagged for Review? ehrnst Oct 2017 #72

You mean with things like this? still_one Oct 2017 #74

Great find! The troll Susan Sarandon saying "fuck them" R B Garr Oct 2017 #75

"her pack"??????????????? heaven05 Oct 2017 #79

her pack? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #91

+1 betsuni Oct 2017 #94

Her pack are those who voted Hillary in the General Election, apparently nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #98

I don't know heaven JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #127

. ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #90

Notice how this posts inspires a 15+ post pile-on melman Oct 2017 #97

Because it has come out that that person did not vote for Hillary by their own admission stevenleser Oct 2017 #99

What are you even talking about? melman Oct 2017 #102

Post 68 above. nt stevenleser Oct 2017 #104

So you agree that Democrats are the trolls on Democratic Underground. betsuni Oct 2017 #100

Did not say that melman Oct 2017 #101

The "pile-on" are those who voted for the Democrat in the election and the "piled-on" didn't. betsuni Oct 2017 #105

No I didn't melman Oct 2017 #106

Yes you did. Your words are here for all to see. betsuni Oct 2017 #116

12 years here, and it turns out that you are one of the BOBs who gave us Trump. Squinch Oct 2017 #110

And now they are trying to justify not voting for the Democratic nominee for President stevenleser Oct 2017 #114

@$!# the trolls amd their pile-ons. Scurrilous Oct 2017 #18

That person wasn't ganged up on and provoked into exploding melman Oct 2017 #21

Sometimes when people can't rebut the message they (metaphorically) shoot the messenger Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #22

you old fart spanone Oct 2017 #23

I embrace my old fartness, I'll have you know. MineralMan Oct 2017 #61

as do I spanone Oct 2017 #65

There's a lot of beating of dead horses. milestogo Oct 2017 #25

FlameSuit Goonch Oct 2017 #26

I could not agree more. Jarqui Oct 2017 #27

That happens to me a lot. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #37

You actually got banned for saying that?? DFW Oct 2017 #45

I've always supported Dems Jarqui Oct 2017 #50

OK, now I get it. DFW Oct 2017 #51

No I was banned - posting ability revoked Jarqui Oct 2017 #52

It's definitely not the same mentality in that party. DFW Oct 2017 #53

It was weird - particularly without explanation. Jarqui Oct 2017 #55

It's OK DFW Oct 2017 #58

My US family enjoys care from Johns Hopkins. My brother in law works there. Jarqui Oct 2017 #64

The long waits for non-urgent afflictions scare me. I would have been dead for 13 years now. DFW Oct 2017 #67

That is not the Canadian system Jarqui Oct 2017 #69

Cheers and good tidings to you! flvegan Oct 2017 #28

There are posts in this thread implying that an undefined minority viewpoint was ganged up on still_one Oct 2017 #30

Not to mention, the minority that says they were Ganged up on were 80% of DUers stevenleser Oct 2017 #103

Took me a few more seconds than it should to realize "Ganges up on" betsuni Oct 2017 #108

98,000 Yupster Oct 2017 #31

Not sure why but I found your reply very funny. grantcart Oct 2017 #109

I treat every post I make... Xolodno Oct 2017 #34

I have all sorts of heterodox opinions--even a few heretical ones... First Speaker Oct 2017 #36

Thanks Mineral Man. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #39

I love reading your posts. Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #40

I've been on DU since 2001 and I have more problems with the thought police Submariner Oct 2017 #41

Amen.. I miss the good old days too SoCalDem Oct 2017 #43

Always glad to read your posts, MM. I bailed twice, taking grateful refuge in spinoff groups... Hekate Oct 2017 #42

I'd like others to agree with me, because....ego. What I cannot abide is being misunderstood, WinkyDink Oct 2017 #44

One of the real tricks seems to be the hardest to learn DFW Oct 2017 #46

Perfectly put. cwydro Oct 2017 #47

Too many people think we all hatched from the same egg. DFW Oct 2017 #48

Exactly. cwydro Oct 2017 #49

Everyone on DU has opinions, and should be able to express them. MineralMan Oct 2017 #63

The second approach to disagreement seems to have become more common here on DU over time. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2017 #83

I've been a member for 13 years samplegirl Oct 2017 #54

+1 get the red out Oct 2017 #59

I read you! Amd i know you are right. The profile of those doing doing the 'alerting" and causing haveahart Oct 2017 #62

No one that DU was created for would try to drive you off. Hortensis Oct 2017 #76

I'm sure that's true, and I'm not going anywhere. MineralMan Oct 2017 #80

Very well stated! Va Lefty Oct 2017 #77

They almost ran me off early on. It can be brutal here. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #78

For anyone who has strong opinions, only an ability to shrug off MineralMan Oct 2017 #81

Oh my...Compuserve in the 80's annabanana Oct 2017 #82

Yup. The Compuserve Politics Forum was a lot like MineralMan Oct 2017 #85

By the way, the Compuserve Political Debate Forum MineralMan Oct 2017 #88

I'm here as a Democrat (as in DEMOCRATIC Underground) louis c Oct 2017 #84

They do find (or start) other sites, but often stick around MineralMan Oct 2017 #86

This is the only site I belong to or visit louis c Oct 2017 #89

Super into unity right now StrictlyRockers Oct 2017 #87

It sounds to me SCantiGOP Oct 2017 #107

you post too much Demonaut Oct 2017 #111

No. I post exactly as much as I choose to. MineralMan Oct 2017 #117

lol, it was a terrible joke Demonaut Oct 2017 #122

And I post too little. So what? betsuni Oct 2017 #118

what Demonaut Oct 2017 #123

I've been here a while. It's really not that hard to follow the rules. nt redgreenandblue Oct 2017 #119

You're right. It's not that hard. MineralMan Oct 2017 #120

You're alright, Mineral Man. Sugar Smack Oct 2017 #126

Not new just quiet bcbink Oct 2017 #129

Thanks very much for posting a reply! MineralMan Oct 2017 #131