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Spitfire of ATJ

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21. "Which is, frankly, astonishing to me."

Tue Jul 17, 2012, 09:24 PM

Jul 2012

I'll tell you when it was broken.

The "geniuses" at Republican Central watched the ongoing drama in the Democratic Party during the 2008 nomination and then saw them win the election and they took the wrong message away AGAIN. Seeing the knock down drag out turn to total unity wasn't what made us stronger. It was the common cause of making the world a better place for everyone.

Anyway, these Morans figured they'd recreate that show for America by having their people duke it out in a long string of debates set up like it was reality TV. No holds bared.

The problem is, nobody serious was stupid enough to play,...especially since the winner was known in advance....

What followed will go down in history as one of the funniest all time screwups in political calculation as they turned a bunch of assholes lose on each other.

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You know what I find really really reeeeeeeeeeeeeally interesting right now? [View all] WilliamPitt Jul 2012 OP

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Right! WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2012 #39

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"Which is, frankly, astonishing to me." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #21

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And a fine thought it is. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #41

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Schwing. Except I wouldn't say they're retreating, since that wasn't THEIR position in the 1st place Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #43

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